Look at it this way.
At least we don't have Dustin Brown locked in for another 8 years at 7M AAV.
Posted by ZTHER on 30 June 2015 - 02:51 PM
I'm with you. I love Beauch, but he seems to have made too many key mistakes in the playoffs, and I've always thought Bieksa was solid. If Z doesn't like it, though, I'm concerned.
Bieksa just turned 34 and still has plenty of gas in the tank, though we can probably expect him to miss 10-15 games this season due to his aggressive style of play. His point totals didn't look all that great last season but he does have a decent shot from the point, he's defensively responsible, can play big minutes, and plays with a agitating edge. Can and does take bad penalties at times.
Murray only needs to land Marchand now from Boston and Anaheim would be the most hated team ever.
I'll miss Beauchemin - one of my all time favorite Ducks - but Bieksa is a upgrade.
Posted by Shadowduck on 10 April 2015 - 11:52 PM
I wanted to post this in the Ducks section but it really isn't about the Ducks. It's about all of you who post here.
I will be busy with some personal stuff and will not be able to watch the final game tomorrow or participate in the game day thread. But since it is the end of the regular season I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who posted on these boards this season.
I may not have agreed with everyone but for the most part everyone on these boards behaves in a polite mature manner. I think this is a special group of Ducks fans we have here and I look forward every season to reading everyone's comments. whether it is about the playoffs, off season signing/trade, the draft, bagging on the Queens....(okay mostly mature).
So thank you to all of you. You make following the Ducks a much richer experience and I am grateful to be able to read and participate in all of the discussions we have here.
Now let's all go cheer and pull for the Ducks to go bring the Stanley Cup back to Anaheim where it belongs!!!
Posted by AdmiralsFan27 on 18 November 2013 - 06:10 PM
With Holland getting moved the other day I have been wondering who in Norfolk will be taking his minutes and potentially replacing his production. My thoughts are that Koivu is nearing a return so Rakell will be sent back down to play top six center minutes, but I don't get to follow the Ads closely enough to know if that will happen or not.
I was also curious as to what Murray sees in Blacker. I figured maybe the Ads needed some help on the backend, but when I checked the Admirals roster it shows they have something like 10 Dmen right now.
All of this got me realizing that I really don't know who plays with who down there on both forward and defense, and whether Blacker will get a better chance in our system than in Toronto's. I like to think the Holland-Blacker deal was done to give both players a better opportunity to break through, but I don't know enough about the Admirals to say he will even crack the lineup.
Anyone out there feel like posting a bit about how Norfolk's depth chart/line combos and D-pairings look now with Holland gone, Blacker in the fold, and possibly Rakell and Vatanen staying down there for a while?
I think I might be able to help with this one. I'm an Admirals season ticket holder and I've actually been doing a great deal of scouting this year in hopes of getting a job with the team in the future. I was shocked, to say the least, to hear about Holland being traded two days ago, especially for a defenseman, and am still trying to rationalize their decision myself. Anaheim and Norfolk both have a slew of young talented wingers in the system but don't have nearly as much center depth now that Holland is in Toronto. Trading Brad Staubiz didn't surprise me since they have apparently didn't have room for him in Anaheim and Norfolk has a number of other AHL veterans in their regular rotation so he hadn't been playing much.(I think its a max of 6 vets per game but idk for sure) As for the depth chart and line combos, Norfolk had been starting Dave Steckel as their 1st line C while Holland was in Anaheim, with Whitney and McQueen at the wings. Chris Wagner is usually their 2nd line centerman, with the Maxs on the wings (Sauve & Friberg), but rotates alot with Sauve who is listed on the roster as a center. The 3rd and 4th lines have been in flux all season depending on who is in Norfolk and who is in Anaheim that week. When Rackell is on the roster, he plays alot with Sarault and had been playing with his former teammate Noesen before he tore his ACL. Without Rackell, or prior to Steckel being signed, Cramarossa and Laganiere were logging about the same amount of ice time as 3rd and 4th line centers, with some combination of Kurtz, Stortini, and Sarault as the wingers. Now that Holland is officially gone and Rackell has been returned to Norfolk, I expect Rackell to see significantly more ice time at center, perhaps replacing Wagner on the 2nd line behind Steckel, whos faceoff skills are too good to not have on the top line.
Wagner will either join Rackell and Sauve as a winger, because of his quickness and defensive responsibility, or will be moved to the 3rd line with Sarault and Kurtz. If Wagner is moved to the 3rd line, that leaves either Laganiere or Cramarossa to center the 4th line with Zack Stortini. Barring injury to any of Anaheim's stars, I expect the forward line combos to look like this for at least the next few months.
As for the defense, Norfolk usually starts Mat Clark and Kevin Gagne, but the two don't always play on the same line. Nolan Yonkman always logs alot of ice time and usually partners with Gagne, Skinner, or Parent. Garnet Exelby and Alex Grant are likely listed as the 2nd line dmen but both also log significant ice time every game. Skinner seems to be much more reliable and consistent than Parent and has played in more games as a result. Now that Sami is back in Norfolk (so thankful hes back, I love his game), he will likely be paired on the top line with Yonkman, which makes for a really interesting combination of playing styles. Exelby and Grant are both very good players and will probably stay put on the 2nd line, leaving the 3rd line d combo completely up for grabs. Norfolk will likely rotate Gagne, Clark, Parent, Skinner, and even Stefan Warg onto that 3rd line as long as Vatanen is on the roster. In my opinion, Kevin Gagne is a great young defenseman, who possesses all of the skills it takes to succeed at the next level, except for his natural physical limitations (hes 5'8 170), and should get the most playing time of the group, if only to get him more experience at the pro level. Mat Clark and Ryan Parent are extremely average players who rarely, if ever in the case of Parent, show flashes of what I would consider NHL caliber defense. I would not be surprised to see either traded at some point in the season as a part of a package deal (perhaps when ANA trades a goalie?) or released outright at the end of the year. Parent is already over the hill at 26 and Clark just hasn't show any signs of improving during his time in Norfolk. Brett Skinner on the other hand is worth holding onto in my opinion. Although he is older than both Clark and Parent (hes 30), his game is much more well-rounded. Skinner plays a smart offensive game, only jumping into plays when the moment calls for it, and always works hard when the puck is in Norfolk's zone. He routinely makes good long lead passes out of the zone and will carry the puck into the zone during line changes. Though he doesn't possess a hard shot, he has been a 0.50 point per game in every league hes played in during his journeyman career. As for Stefan Warg, he will likely be moved to the ECHL so he can get more acclimated to the North American game rather than playing sparingly for Norfolk.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, I have no idea where this Blacker kid will fit in to the Admirals rotation. It seems like Anaheim has the 6 or 7 defenseman that barring injury will be on their roster for the duration of the season, so I assume the defenseman in Norfolk now, with the exception of Sami, will be here all year as well. Yonkman and Exelby have played in a combined 470+ NHL games and are good enough in my opinion to be 3rd line NHL defenseman right now for some teams out there. Alex Grant is an improving offensive defenseman who, once he improves on some of the defensive aspects of his game, should end up in the NHL at some point in the future. Now that they have acquired Blacker to add another young defenseman, perhaps Anaheim will now feel more comfortable moving one of their older defenseman to a team looking to replace an injured vet at the trade deadline or sometime prior. I would be absolutely shocked if Anaheim kept all of these defenseman in their system for the remainder of the season, but then again, I was shocked they made this deal in the first place.
AND TO THE GUY WHO SAID THIS TRADE WOULD BONE THE ADMIRALS.....
you sir are absolutely correct. Holland has been nearly a point per game guy his entire career and was looking better and skating harder this season than I had seen at any point the past two years. He was not the leader of the Admirals but his presence on the ice was noticeable. He made the guys around him better and the confidence he played with was contagious. I guess Anaheim made up their mind that he was done improving as a player and was not going to become the guy they thought he would when they drafted him in the 1st round just 4 years ago. If anyone else would like to try to make sense of this trade then be my guest, but as far as I'm concerned, this move was a complete head-scratcher.
Hope this helps answer some of you Ducks fans' questions about the Admirals line combos and defensive pairings. If theres anything else anyone wants to know about any of the Ducks AHL prospects don't hesitate to ask me
Posted by tayhart on 04 July 2015 - 07:35 PM
Posted by ducksFANjason on 07 May 2015 - 09:39 AM
If the Flames can somehow shut down the Ducks' first line the Flames have a very good chance of winning. Anaheim has little to no offense from their defense, second, third and fourth lines.
The Ducks dominated the first game when Calgary played their worst game of the season.
The second game was close until halway through the third.
The third game went to overtime, but without the knuckle puck the Ducks couldn't score.
The series is closer than you are letting on.
You and the rest of the Calgary fans who want to continue trolling can just continue on your way. For all the flack Ducks fans get because we're not in a traditional hockey market, this just proves that being a fan of a team in a traditional market doesn't make you any more knowledgeable about the game.
The Ducks' seconday scoring has been one of their greatest strengths all season and the playoffs has been no different. A simple cursory glance at the stats sheets or even a single article about the Ducks from any media source would have clued you in on that. It's widely accepted that the Ducks right now are one of the deepest teams in the league so this nonsense about "no offense" from 2nd and 3rd lines, etc. is just that - complete nonsense.
The best part of your post was when you jabbed at our defense's lack of scoring though. That was truly comical. If the Ducks' d-men don't score then neither do any teams' d-men because we literally lead the entire NHL in points from the blueline right now. And might I add, we've got that lead despite being the only team to get a measly 4 games in the opening round. We've done more from our blue line in 7 games than your team or any of the other playoff teams have in at least 8+.
But credit where credit is due - your team leads in scoring out of all the teams in the playoffs that start with "C" and end in "Y." So kudos to you and your fans!
Posted by MBeleskey2014 on 25 February 2015 - 12:05 AM
Gimme a break, go do some homework and tell me what we gave up for Pat Maroon and what his career projectory was at that time?....
The guy has more than lived up to his potential and yes, maybe hes not an 'ideal' top line LW but he is in no way hampering the team with his performance, lets talk about Bourque or DSP (who got traded) if you want to point fingers at guys who got drafted high and have never lived up to there potential, just to name a few...
Maroon should not be getting bashed on Anaheim Message boards... enough said
Posted by ZTHER on 07 July 2015 - 09:59 PM
Team is leaving alot of money on the table by not using the original team logo in more merchandise, it's very popular with the 90's kids. time to embrace your past ducks and stop pretending it didn't exist.
Logo... absolutely. Heck, the team kept Wild Wing... but lets leave those 80's themed jersey's launched in the 90's in the past. Something along these lines...
I'd love to bring back the old logo with our current colors at some point. As a third would be fine. Just change the stripes to horizontal ones and it would be perfect. I think enough time has passed (about 10 years) since we last used the logo full time. Give it another 10 years and it will feel completely retro and the Disney past would seem really far away. Definitely by then I wouldn't mind it as our full time logo again. I like our current colors though so I want to keep those.
Posted by ZTHER on 04 July 2015 - 09:13 AM
BM apparently has no intent to sign anyone significant. I'm done watching and hoping for it, and will simply have to hope for the best once the season starts with the roster we have. Have a great summer everyone!
Returning a young and improving team that's won THE MOST GAMES in hockey over the last three seasons isn't a bad thing...
Based on Fowler, Lindholm, Despres, and Vatanen alone the Ducks should be better next season. We know what we'll see from Kesler, Getzlaf, Cogliano, and Perry. Andersen should be better. Gibson. Rakell. S33. The loss of Beleskey and Beauchemin sting a little, but adding veterans like Bieksa and Horcoff will help.
Any real gamble should be taken at the trade deadline. This UFA class was extremely weak. Why buy into that lock, stock, and barrel?
The sky is not falling folks.
Posted by ZTHER on 30 June 2015 - 03:18 PM
This! But hey, an extra 8m for your retirement with a cup on your resume already is enticing. His family is set for life. Good on him
I'll never forget his stick save in the Cup final :')
Taking the helmets off and then one-timing Iginla to his knees has to be one of the top five greatest moments in Ducks history...
Posted by AustinDuck27 on 02 March 2015 - 03:19 PM
Yeah he did. He was going to get re-evaluated but don't know what came of it
Keks: "Hey you, smartass, nice no-trade list, but guess what? We have interest from the Ducks."
Wiz: "You have to be kidding, they want me back? Dammit."
Keks: "Nice try, punk. And I'm sending you for a cheap package to make sure they don't back out."
Wiz: "Well, um, did I mention my foot is injured? Yeah, that's it. Injured."
Keks: "Bullsh... they want you injured or not."
Wiz: "Fine. Screw it, I'll go."
Murray: "Hey man, no hard feelings, eh? Welcome back. How's the foot?"
Wiz: "My what? Oh yeah, my foot. It's fine. Let's win this big silver thing now that the champ is here. I'm picking out my stall, tell whoever #4 is to move his crap out of it. And where's Scotty? Tell him to get me a towel and some water."
Posted by AdmiralsFan27 on 22 November 2013 - 10:44 PM
The line combinations looked like this for the entirety of the game tonight vs. Portland
Line 1 (Starters) -- LW Sauve - C Wagner - RW Whitney
Line 2 --------------- LW Kurtz - C Rakell - RW Friberg
Line 3 --------------- Laganiere ---- Steckel ------ MacQueen
Line 4 --------------- Cramarossa -- Saurault ----- Stortini
D1 (starters) - LD Gagne -- RD Clark
D2 -------------- LD Grant --- RD Exelby
D3 -------------- LD Blacker - RD Yonkman : combo that played the most tonight
Healthy Scratches : Vatanen, Parent, Warg (Brett Skinner was released just a few hours before puck drop, much to my dismay)
Very few changes throughtout the game as far as the lines are concerned. Gagne and Grant played together for 2 shifts in the 2nd with Grant playing right D when they did. Norfolk had Wagner centering the 1st Powerplay line with Rackell and Sauve on the wings and Grant & Exelby on D. The 2nd PP line consisted of Sarault ©, Friberg, and Laganiere with Gagne and Blacker playing D. As for penalty killing, the Admirals had Wagner & Kurtz as the forwards and Clark & Blacker on D on their primary PK line. The other penalty killers they used were Steckel, Stortini, Friberg, Rakell, Exelby, Yonkman, and Grant in various rotations.
Overall the team played well tonight, with the exception of a somewhat sloppy 2nd period. I thought Rakell looked really good in his return to Norfolk. He skated very well and made a number of great neutral zone plays that led to turnovers and was also notably more passive tonight than he had been prior. I was disappointed Vatanen wasn't in the lineup but was glad I finally got to see Jesse Blacker up close and personal. Blacker played an outstanding game IMHO and thats saying something because I was watching him really closely tonight because of how critical I was of the Holland trade. He routinely skated the puck through the neutral zone with great confidence and played very well in his own zone as well. He fought hard in the corners, behind the net, and took on bigger guys in front of the net all night long. Needless to say I was impressed by him, and although I still don't think the trade was a good one, I can see now why Anaheim might think this kid has a brighter future than ol Peter Holland (but best of luck to him in Toronto). I also thought that Chris Wagner had his best game in an Admirals uniform tonight. He won a vast majority of his faceoffs, had numerous hits in all 3 zones, made 2 or 3 sick passes for scoring chances from behind the net on the PP, and made several high effort plays throughtout the night on the PK and at even strength. He did not get a point tonight but he was defintely one of the main reasons the team got the win. John Gibson played like a seasoned vet in net as he has all season, stopping nearly every clean shot he's seen so far in the AHL, and picked up his 7th win. The rare goals he gives up are almost always long shots that go in because he was screened or because the puck got deflected. He is a really hard worker, rarely gets out of position, handles the puck very well and continues to look like a future star in the NHL.
Decided to post the lines and a short summary from tonights game after reading the positive feedback from my first post the other day. I'm not really sure what brought me to type up such a long response but was glad to see that the time it took to write up wasn't wasted. As I said in the previous post, if anyone wants to know anything else about the AHL guys and how they're playing on a game to game basis, please don't hesitate to ask.
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