Mr. neimiwillrise, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having to read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Matt Moulson 6' 1" 210lbs LW
last 3 seasons 30,31,36 goals PPG 8,9,14 cap hit: $ 3,133,333
this guy is a rising star we should try to get this guy
and we need a Left Wing
but i think we need 2 left wings so...
how about Chris Kunitz last 3 seasons 13,23,26 goals 32,48,61 points cap hit: $ 3,725,00
how to get those two is a "bit" bonkers idea so no negative comments please
or you can just ignore it completely and focus on Moulson and Kunitz
and to that it would be cool to get both
Matt Moulson for Jonas Hiller
Chris Kunitz+Craig Adams+2013 1st round pick for Corey Perry
Matt Moulson LW Ryan Getzlaf C Bobby Ryan RW
Chris Kunitz LW Saku Koivu C Teemu Selänne RW
Andrew Cogliano LW Daniel Winnik C Devante Smith-Pelly RW
Brad Staubitz LW Nick Bonino C Craig Adams RW
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Posted by AdmiralsFan27 on 18 November 2013 - 06:10 PM
With Holland getting moved the other day I have been wondering who in Norfolk will be taking his minutes and potentially replacing his production. My thoughts are that Koivu is nearing a return so Rakell will be sent back down to play top six center minutes, but I don't get to follow the Ads closely enough to know if that will happen or not.
I was also curious as to what Murray sees in Blacker. I figured maybe the Ads needed some help on the backend, but when I checked the Admirals roster it shows they have something like 10 Dmen right now.
All of this got me realizing that I really don't know who plays with who down there on both forward and defense, and whether Blacker will get a better chance in our system than in Toronto's. I like to think the Holland-Blacker deal was done to give both players a better opportunity to break through, but I don't know enough about the Admirals to say he will even crack the lineup.
Anyone out there feel like posting a bit about how Norfolk's depth chart/line combos and D-pairings look now with Holland gone, Blacker in the fold, and possibly Rakell and Vatanen staying down there for a while?
I think I might be able to help with this one. I'm an Admirals season ticket holder and I've actually been doing a great deal of scouting this year in hopes of getting a job with the team in the future. I was shocked, to say the least, to hear about Holland being traded two days ago, especially for a defenseman, and am still trying to rationalize their decision myself. Anaheim and Norfolk both have a slew of young talented wingers in the system but don't have nearly as much center depth now that Holland is in Toronto. Trading Brad Staubiz didn't surprise me since they have apparently didn't have room for him in Anaheim and Norfolk has a number of other AHL veterans in their regular rotation so he hadn't been playing much.(I think its a max of 6 vets per game but idk for sure) As for the depth chart and line combos, Norfolk had been starting Dave Steckel as their 1st line C while Holland was in Anaheim, with Whitney and McQueen at the wings. Chris Wagner is usually their 2nd line centerman, with the Maxs on the wings (Sauve & Friberg), but rotates alot with Sauve who is listed on the roster as a center. The 3rd and 4th lines have been in flux all season depending on who is in Norfolk and who is in Anaheim that week. When Rackell is on the roster, he plays alot with Sarault and had been playing with his former teammate Noesen before he tore his ACL. Without Rackell, or prior to Steckel being signed, Cramarossa and Laganiere were logging about the same amount of ice time as 3rd and 4th line centers, with some combination of Kurtz, Stortini, and Sarault as the wingers. Now that Holland is officially gone and Rackell has been returned to Norfolk, I expect Rackell to see significantly more ice time at center, perhaps replacing Wagner on the 2nd line behind Steckel, whos faceoff skills are too good to not have on the top line.
Wagner will either join Rackell and Sauve as a winger, because of his quickness and defensive responsibility, or will be moved to the 3rd line with Sarault and Kurtz. If Wagner is moved to the 3rd line, that leaves either Laganiere or Cramarossa to center the 4th line with Zack Stortini. Barring injury to any of Anaheim's stars, I expect the forward line combos to look like this for at least the next few months.
As for the defense, Norfolk usually starts Mat Clark and Kevin Gagne, but the two don't always play on the same line. Nolan Yonkman always logs alot of ice time and usually partners with Gagne, Skinner, or Parent. Garnet Exelby and Alex Grant are likely listed as the 2nd line dmen but both also log significant ice time every game. Skinner seems to be much more reliable and consistent than Parent and has played in more games as a result. Now that Sami is back in Norfolk (so thankful hes back, I love his game), he will likely be paired on the top line with Yonkman, which makes for a really interesting combination of playing styles. Exelby and Grant are both very good players and will probably stay put on the 2nd line, leaving the 3rd line d combo completely up for grabs. Norfolk will likely rotate Gagne, Clark, Parent, Skinner, and even Stefan Warg onto that 3rd line as long as Vatanen is on the roster. In my opinion, Kevin Gagne is a great young defenseman, who possesses all of the skills it takes to succeed at the next level, except for his natural physical limitations (hes 5'8 170), and should get the most playing time of the group, if only to get him more experience at the pro level. Mat Clark and Ryan Parent are extremely average players who rarely, if ever in the case of Parent, show flashes of what I would consider NHL caliber defense. I would not be surprised to see either traded at some point in the season as a part of a package deal (perhaps when ANA trades a goalie?) or released outright at the end of the year. Parent is already over the hill at 26 and Clark just hasn't show any signs of improving during his time in Norfolk. Brett Skinner on the other hand is worth holding onto in my opinion. Although he is older than both Clark and Parent (hes 30), his game is much more well-rounded. Skinner plays a smart offensive game, only jumping into plays when the moment calls for it, and always works hard when the puck is in Norfolk's zone. He routinely makes good long lead passes out of the zone and will carry the puck into the zone during line changes. Though he doesn't possess a hard shot, he has been a 0.50 point per game in every league hes played in during his journeyman career. As for Stefan Warg, he will likely be moved to the ECHL so he can get more acclimated to the North American game rather than playing sparingly for Norfolk.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, I have no idea where this Blacker kid will fit in to the Admirals rotation. It seems like Anaheim has the 6 or 7 defenseman that barring injury will be on their roster for the duration of the season, so I assume the defenseman in Norfolk now, with the exception of Sami, will be here all year as well. Yonkman and Exelby have played in a combined 470+ NHL games and are good enough in my opinion to be 3rd line NHL defenseman right now for some teams out there. Alex Grant is an improving offensive defenseman who, once he improves on some of the defensive aspects of his game, should end up in the NHL at some point in the future. Now that they have acquired Blacker to add another young defenseman, perhaps Anaheim will now feel more comfortable moving one of their older defenseman to a team looking to replace an injured vet at the trade deadline or sometime prior. I would be absolutely shocked if Anaheim kept all of these defenseman in their system for the remainder of the season, but then again, I was shocked they made this deal in the first place.
AND TO THE GUY WHO SAID THIS TRADE WOULD BONE THE ADMIRALS.....
you sir are absolutely correct. Holland has been nearly a point per game guy his entire career and was looking better and skating harder this season than I had seen at any point the past two years. He was not the leader of the Admirals but his presence on the ice was noticeable. He made the guys around him better and the confidence he played with was contagious. I guess Anaheim made up their mind that he was done improving as a player and was not going to become the guy they thought he would when they drafted him in the 1st round just 4 years ago. If anyone else would like to try to make sense of this trade then be my guest, but as far as I'm concerned, this move was a complete head-scratcher.
Hope this helps answer some of you Ducks fans' questions about the Admirals line combos and defensive pairings. If theres anything else anyone wants to know about any of the Ducks AHL prospects don't hesitate to ask me
Posted by silvrmw on 18 June 2012 - 04:10 PM
Posted by Alphacsulb on 29 January 2013 - 12:10 PM
Posted by Emerald_Duck on 03 August 2012 - 09:44 PM
It is always surprising to me to hear fans complain about why a rich owner won't spend more (i.e., lose more) money on a product for their entertainment. The NHL is not like baseball where there is a direct correlation between salaries and success. It's great if you're a Yankees or Red Sox fan, but it is not so enjoyable for the majority of the league. In the NHL, it is more important how you spend the money instead of how much money you spend.
Since the Samuelis have taken over the Ducks, we have made the playoffs 5 of 7 years. We have seen first ballot Hall of Fame hockey players like Niedermayer, Selanne, and Pronger play in our own barn. Getzlaf, Perry and Ryan are considered premier talents in today's NHL. We have rebuilt our farm system and we can look forward to watching young players like Fowler, Sbisa, Palmieri, Etem and Holland who may become future stars in the league. IMO we have been spoiled by our on ice success and the talent that we have been able to watch over the last several years. There are some fan bases who have never seen this type of skill play for them like we've been fortunate to watch over this time frame.
One thing that the big market and Canadian clubs have in common is that their ticket prices are a lot higher than Anaheim. We were ranked 28 out of 30 teams for average ticket price (high: Toronto $123.77 low: Dallas $29.95 Anaheim: $36.94 League average: $57.10 source: ESPN). If the Samuelis were gouging fans with high ticket prices and then pocketing excessive operating profits, then I could agree with feelings of anger and frustration. Instead they have been focused on trying to expand the hockey market in OC by icing a competitive team and combining with a lot of local community sponsorship and low ticket prices to expand the fan base. The local TV coverage of the Ducks far surpasses what prior ownership was willing to provide.
Southern California has had its share of looney owners: Frank McCourt, Donald Sterling, Al Davis, Georgia Frontiere, and whoever currently owns the Padres. Fortunately for us, Henry and Susan Samueli don't fall into this category.
Even though some will say "what have you done for me lately", let's keep it in perspective. Last year was an anomaly with the roster we have, and I expect (or at least hope) that if our stars play like they can, then we can make the playoffs this year. As the Kings proved last year and we proved in 02-03, if you make the playoffs, then anything can happen.
Posted by gorbachav5 on 09 December 2013 - 10:34 PM
Fasth "not close"? What the heck happened to him? For some reason I have groin pull in my head. But this seems like a long down time for that. I am super sketchy on going with Fasth next season, unless we somehow we inject him with Cogliano blood.
Cogliano blood is not compatible with humans. Fasth would wind up exploding into a pile of grit and moxie. Also, Pierre McGuire has dibs on the first succesfully synthesized vial of Cogliano Blood.
Posted by AdmiralsFan27 on 22 November 2013 - 10:44 PM
The line combinations looked like this for the entirety of the game tonight vs. Portland
Line 1 (Starters) -- LW Sauve - C Wagner - RW Whitney
Line 2 --------------- LW Kurtz - C Rakell - RW Friberg
Line 3 --------------- Laganiere ---- Steckel ------ MacQueen
Line 4 --------------- Cramarossa -- Saurault ----- Stortini
D1 (starters) - LD Gagne -- RD Clark
D2 -------------- LD Grant --- RD Exelby
D3 -------------- LD Blacker - RD Yonkman : combo that played the most tonight
Healthy Scratches : Vatanen, Parent, Warg (Brett Skinner was released just a few hours before puck drop, much to my dismay)
Very few changes throughtout the game as far as the lines are concerned. Gagne and Grant played together for 2 shifts in the 2nd with Grant playing right D when they did. Norfolk had Wagner centering the 1st Powerplay line with Rackell and Sauve on the wings and Grant & Exelby on D. The 2nd PP line consisted of Sarault ©, Friberg, and Laganiere with Gagne and Blacker playing D. As for penalty killing, the Admirals had Wagner & Kurtz as the forwards and Clark & Blacker on D on their primary PK line. The other penalty killers they used were Steckel, Stortini, Friberg, Rakell, Exelby, Yonkman, and Grant in various rotations.
Overall the team played well tonight, with the exception of a somewhat sloppy 2nd period. I thought Rakell looked really good in his return to Norfolk. He skated very well and made a number of great neutral zone plays that led to turnovers and was also notably more passive tonight than he had been prior. I was disappointed Vatanen wasn't in the lineup but was glad I finally got to see Jesse Blacker up close and personal. Blacker played an outstanding game IMHO and thats saying something because I was watching him really closely tonight because of how critical I was of the Holland trade. He routinely skated the puck through the neutral zone with great confidence and played very well in his own zone as well. He fought hard in the corners, behind the net, and took on bigger guys in front of the net all night long. Needless to say I was impressed by him, and although I still don't think the trade was a good one, I can see now why Anaheim might think this kid has a brighter future than ol Peter Holland (but best of luck to him in Toronto). I also thought that Chris Wagner had his best game in an Admirals uniform tonight. He won a vast majority of his faceoffs, had numerous hits in all 3 zones, made 2 or 3 sick passes for scoring chances from behind the net on the PP, and made several high effort plays throughtout the night on the PK and at even strength. He did not get a point tonight but he was defintely one of the main reasons the team got the win. John Gibson played like a seasoned vet in net as he has all season, stopping nearly every clean shot he's seen so far in the AHL, and picked up his 7th win. The rare goals he gives up are almost always long shots that go in because he was screened or because the puck got deflected. He is a really hard worker, rarely gets out of position, handles the puck very well and continues to look like a future star in the NHL.
Decided to post the lines and a short summary from tonights game after reading the positive feedback from my first post the other day. I'm not really sure what brought me to type up such a long response but was glad to see that the time it took to write up wasn't wasted. As I said in the previous post, if anyone wants to know anything else about the AHL guys and how they're playing on a game to game basis, please don't hesitate to ask.
Posted by gotchabari on 14 May 2013 - 10:06 PM
Is that what he did with Getzlaf, Perry, and Penner?
Didn't have much of a choice.
Posted by ZTHER on 23 June 2012 - 07:11 PM
shortsightedness? I have been involved with hockey for almost 20 years. I spend on average about 1.5-2 hours a day, A DAY, researching hockey, looking at this forum, TSN, prospect sites, draft sites, etc, etc, etc. The only shortsightedness is those who don't see the downward spiral this team is in. How can you view the past 4 seasons as good? we have got statistically worse EVERY year (lucky run year before last that got us to 4th then lost in the first round). Yes we may have some of the top prospects in the league and yes we WERE ranked 3rd BEfore we moved/lost Gardiner and Schultz.
You can't say the team is a downward spiral the last four years and then omit one season as "lucky". That "lucky" season was the third best season "statistically" in the history of the franchise.
You could be watching hockey for the last 50 years and still be fairly new to the concept of the salary cap. Unfortunately, the salary cap impacts small market teams to a greater degree than large market teams for a number of reasons I'm sure you understand extremely well. With this in mind, and your following of the professional game, how would you compare the post-cup success of the small market franchises who have made or won championships since the lockout? Those are the organizations that it's fair to judge Anaheim against. You've been watching hockey for 20 years, I'd challenge you to find an example of a similar franchise that's been stewarded better than Anaheim.
I'd also like you to look at some of the recently successful franchises and ask yourself how they got where they were. Lets take the last FOUR Stanley Cup champions, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago, and Pittsburgh. Do you realize where each of these teams finished a scant four years before they won everything? Each one of those teams had to suck, and with the exception of Boston, suck hard for years before they could become competitive again. Now if you advocate Murray blowing apart the team when he took over and completely rebuilding, you have an argument that's pretty strong. That's an avenue he could have taken, however in this era, no small market GM has ever been able to return a team to prominence and among them, Bob Murray and the Anaheim Ducks have "statistically" seen the most success to date.
Posted by Aksun on 06 December 2013 - 08:17 PM
There are 2 long and happy Penner-surprise threads. None for the twins.
THEYRE FLAT OUT AWESOME.
To say the very least: they are outright carrying this team (and positively influencing Penner, though we all knew he's a great player himself). So, as a good fan, I must give credit where credit is due:
THANK YOU Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry. You are this team. We love you.
Posted by Shadowduck on 27 April 2013 - 09:05 AM
As today is the last regular season game, I wanted to take this moment to say what a pleasant surprise the Ducks were this year. Regardless of how they do in the playoffs, this season has been thoroughly satisfying as a Duck's fan. This was the first season in many years where the Ducks really played exceptionally the entire season. We as fans didn't have to wait half a season (ignoring the fact that the season started so late) for the team to start playing with a fire in their bellies.
I also want to take this moment to thank all of you for such a fun time on these boards. I have really enjoyed participating in all of the debates and speculation this season. As always, the members of these boards have conducted themselves with class and maturity.(For the most part) The game day threads were especially enjoyable for me this season.
Thank you all for making this a fun and welcoming place for Duck fans to "gather" and cheer on our favorite team.
Posted by ZTHER on 06 January 2013 - 03:47 PM
Posted by OminousHorizon on 12 July 2012 - 05:04 PM
I got a negative vote from someone and you were the person who had replied to me. I feel like this message board has never shown that they appreciate me, unfortunately and I would like to be traded to the Flyer's forum.
How in the world did you determine that i was upset? I was just messing around.
I guess in keeping with the theme... What factual evidence lead you to believe that i was upset?
Posted by xxreact on 05 July 2012 - 06:30 AM
Apparently you don't get it. I like Murray for his drafting. I like what he has done to restock the cupboards and set us up for the future. I appreciate the difficult job he had to rearrange the salary structure when Burkie left. I have a slightly negative opinion of his F/A signings and overall I'm fairly even on his trades. I also sided with him completely in the Schultz debacle (which you did not, Z). But I do think he is lousy at handling his players. I didn't respect him going to the media to say that everyone but Teemu and Saku were on the block (I thought that was bush league and should have been handled entirely behind closed doors), and I don't respect him giving everyone, including Bobby, the silent treatment when the rumors started swirling again days before the draft. I also didn't respect him allowing the team to be held hostage by Teemu and Scotty a few seasons ago (even though they are two of my all-time favorite players). But just because I think he's sub-par at one part of his job doesn't mean I dislike the guy. I'm just saying that he shares at least some of the blame for this whole media mess.
First off, he didn't GO to the media. He didn't hop in a car and drive to the nearest local news station and blabber about it. The media asked him a question, and he answered it. Also, there's a difference between being "on the block" and simply being movable if someone happens to call in an offer for that player which will improve the team. I'm pretty sure 99% of players in the league are in that situation, where they can be moved at any time if there is an opportunity to improve the team. The statement was nothing more than diverting the attention away from specific players and simply generalizing that anyone can be moved at any time. If anything, this takes the heat AWAY from bobby, and shifts it to the other players on the team the media decides to create rumors about. And he did it all by saying a general and obvious statement that anyone can be moved if it helps the team. What a brilliant tactic by murray to protect bobby ryan. So I'm really not sure how this point is helping your bobby case. It is in fact an argument against your case, and I thank you for pointing it out.
It needs to be handled behind closed doors? So you want murray to conduct a team meeting to remind all the players that if he is offered a trade that will improve the team, he will do it? Isn't this a blatantly obvious fact to any player in the entire league? What NHL player would ever need to be reminded of this, especially when a good team is under performing in last place? "Hey bonino, now this may come as a shock to you, but if the burgh throws crosby and malkin our way in a swap for you, we might have the pull the trigger"..... NHL players are all inherently aware that if the GM is offered more than they are worth, they will be traded. It's part of the business.
I'm starting to question your interpretation of what a GM actually does. Come trade deadline, july 1st, and the draft, trade rumors will exist. They are created with the media, and die with the media 24 hours later when nothing happens. It is part of a hockey players jobs to deal with these media-created rumors, and NOT part of a GM's job to respond to every single one of them. How do you think toronto's GM does his job? Does he address every single trade rumor (100's per week)? In what way? I mean, what is the opposite of a silent treatment? Does the GM phone or meet with every player who is ever discussed in a rumor and explain why he thinks that rumor exists? Why does an NHL GM have to explain why bleacher report morons are writing articles about their players, that the GM's themselves aren't even shopping?
GM's tell players not to listen to rumors, period, over, finito, job well done. If murray is physically shopping a player, he will tell that player. And that's the beauty of what you yourself call "handling behind closed doors". The doors are closed!!! Meaning you, nor I, have any idea of the existence and content of those conversations, and consequently shouldn't instantly assume they do or do not exist.
Bob murray let them hold the team hostage???????????????????? I think not. "On November 12, 2008, he was named the new general manager of the Anaheim Ducks". This is of course the 2008/2009 season, midway through. Scott neidermayer and selanne partially retired in the 07/08 season, so brian burke is the man you're trying to criticize. "Niedermayer again briefly contemplated retirement, before announcing on June 26, 2008, intentions to fulfill at least one more year of the two remaining on his contract", plenty of notice. You're sitting here blaming him for all kinds of things he's literally not even responsible for, and you claim you have nothing against him? I'll take your word for it, but the post certainly doesn't suggest that.
No offense intended here at all, I respect/agree with your opinions with regards to what murray has done right, and likely many other parts of the game, but I found this post particularly disturbing.
Posted by AustinDuck27 on 16 December 2013 - 08:37 AM
Gotta be Pierre...it got borderline creepy during that game
Ding ding ding, winners!
"Dear Fathead.com, I find it highly disappointing that you refuse to offer an Andrew Cogliano Fathhead poster despite my many letters. He's clearly the best two-way player in the league, and not many know this but he started out with the Vaghan Rangers with another player by the name of Steve Eminger who now plays for HV CSKA of the KHL with a pretty good player you might have heard of, Alex Radulov. But I digress... now there will be a big empty space on my wall next to my Sid Crosby Fathead, it will match the big empty space in my heart. Curse you Fathead."
Posted by AdmiralsFan27 on 30 November 2013 - 10:55 PM
Starters – LW Laganiere --- C Steckel - RW Whitney
Line 2 ---- LW Smith Pelly - C Wagner - RW Etem
Line 3 ---- LW Friberg ------- C Rakell --- RW Cramarossa
Line 4 ---- LW Kurtz ---------- C Stortini -- RW Sarault
D1 --- LD Blacker - RD Exelby
D2 --- LD Gagne -- RD Clark
D3 --- LD Parent -- RD Little
G --- Thiessen
Okay so I have to start this writeup by saying that I missed a vast majority of the 1st period because I had to make sure my Hokies sealed the deal against the lowly Cavaliers before I left for the game. I got to the rink with about 6 minutes left in the 1st and the Admirals had only gotten 1 shot on goal to that point so I assume I didn’t miss much. The period ended with Providence outshooting the Ads 14-4. Thiessen got the start tonight over Gibson after being signed a few days ago and didn’t look rusty at all in his return to AHL action. He was peppered with shots all night but played very well and did a fairly good job controlling his rebounds (Providence took a lot of point shots tonight). Also worth noting was that the Bruins started Malcolm Subban over Svedberg and he too played very well and made a save on Etem from the slot early in the 3rd that could have warranted a subpoena by the Norfolk police for grand larceny.
The 2nd period was high flying and face paced as both teams managed several good scoring chances for the first three quarters of the period. Providence got the scoring started on a scramble play in front of the Norfolk net. While the bruins were controlling the puck, they worked it into the corner and Clark left his D zone to pressure the puck-carrier. The bruin winger then threw the puck on net where it was lost for a moment in the feet of Gagne and another bruin. The puck squirted free and ended up right on the stick of Johnson for Providence, who had broken away from Wagner attempting to cover for Clark in front, and he tapped it in for the 1st goal of the game. Norfolk initially responded well after the goal, getting a few quick shots, but just 3 minutes later Providence managed to sneak another one past Thiessen. After making a save on a shot from the faceoff circle, Thiessen lost sight of the rebound and Griffin for the bruins gathered it and fired a quick shot in the net off the back of the goaltender. This time Norfolk answered the goal with one of their own after a good effort play by Chris Wagner. Wagner made a strong hit in the neutral zone to steal the puck and skated it in deep behind the Providence net. Circling around the zone he worked the puck over to Etem who made a quick pass to Smith Pelly crashing the net from the deep slot. Devante made a nice move to get around a defender and shot a snapshot that Subban had trouble catching up too. The puck bounced off his blocker and went straight to Wagner, who had made his way to the side of the goal crease, and snapped the rebound in for the Admirals first goal. The goal came with just a minute and a half left and the period ended without much else happening. After getting just 4 shots in the 1st, Norfolk forced Subban to make 14 saves before scoring on their 15th shot of the 2nd period.
As the 3rd period began, it was clear Providence really wanted to get an insurance goal. The bruins tallied 13 shots on goal in the first 7 minutes of the 3rd and were dominating time of possession for most of that time. Perhaps in an attempt to turn the tide and gain some momentum, John Kurtz started a fight after a post whistle scrum and really got the crowd going after a long, haymaker filled bout. However, any momentum gained was extremely short-lived, as Providence got their insurance goal just 45 seconds later. Kohklachev for the bruins gained the puck in the neutral zone and skated it behind the Norfolk goal line. Fresh off a line change, Camara for Providence flew into the slot, received a nice pass, and ripped a great shot right in the corner for the eventual game winner. Gagne was the D man in front on the play and failed to pick up Camara soon enough, leaving him wide open for the pass (other than that play Gagne played great). The action was pretty back and forth for much of the rest of the game, with the bruins totaling 43 shots on goal by game’s end. With a minute & a half left and down by 2, Norfolk pulled the goalie and after nearly a minute of constant pressure they finally managed to get it within 1. On a post-icing faceoff, Wagner tied up the draw and worked the puck over to the left Dman Blacker. Blacker slapped a hard shot on net off the pass that had eyes and somehow got past Subban from long range. However, it was not quite enough as time expired before Norfolk could get another play set up. Providence wins 3-2, outshooting Norfolk 43 to 29. Wagner received the 3rd star with a goal and an assist.
My impressions of the team were very similar to last night. Norfolk, still one or two guys short on defense, had to call up Mike Little from the ECHL before the game and he skated in his first AHL game tonight. He was +1 in his debut and I thought he looked just as good if not better than Warg did last night as Parent’s line partner. Despite being a “little” guy (cheap pun but I had to do it), he is certainly not afraid to throw his body around or battle opponents away from the front of the net. For the most part, he made smart, crisp passes all night and only got out of position once or twice, neither leading to goals. As I expected, Sauvé was scratched from the lineup without any explanation regarding his injury and the lines were changed around to account from his absence. Laganiere and Friberg both saw more ice time than usual as a result but neither managed to break the score sheet in the game. Wagner was switched onto the Etem/Smith Pelly line tonight as Rakell joined Friberg and Cramarossa on what ended up looking like a checking line. I thought Wagner looked great tonight playing with the two NHL guys and really showed that he has what it takes to play in the NHL if and when he gets the call from Anaheim. He was routinely the hardest working player on that line and made a handful of plays by himself that led to scoring chances for his teammates. His size is likely a concern of Anaheim’s, as he is an undersized center iceman, but his superb faceoff skills and playmaking abilities may make the transition to the next level smoother than the average fan might think. Also noteworthy from tonight’s game was that Stortini took a majority of the faceoffs for the 4th line. Sarault, who had been struggling to win or tie up draws with any consistency the past few games, lined up at right wing most of the night, rotating positioning with Stortini depending on how the play developed. He played well on the wing but definitely needs to add some strength, as he can be pushed around or intimidated at times. Playing with Stortini helps make up for his lack of physicality but Sarault is a natural setup guy so he really is not being utilized properly playing on the 4th line. Unlike last night, the defense did not play well as a group. That may go without saying since they gave up 43 shots, but if Thiessen hadn’t bailed them out a few times it could have been much worse. Clark and Gagne did not have a strong game and both were on the ice for all 3 of Providence’s goals. Blacker and Exelby had a good offensive game but aside from a few nice back-checks, neither did much to help prevent the bruins from piling up shots. Thiessen looked really good tonight, especially considering it was his first game in North America since last season. His addition adds even more depth to Anaheim’s slew of goaltenders and may signal the start of more serious trade talks about potentially trading one of them.
Well that’s all I got for tonight. The Admirals are on the road next weekend for two games in Syracuse and then return the following weekend for a series against Springfield. Until then, peace love and happiness to you all.
Posted by PetrSykora on 24 October 2013 - 04:29 PM
That period was Garbutts
Posted by ZTHER on 28 July 2013 - 09:15 PM
He definitely has problems getting UFAs to sign. Other members of the brass have publicly said, "He's trying, but it takes two to get serious. Players don't know him well enough yet." I was told he tried really hard to get Derek Roy. He doesn't get into crazy bidding wars and that's fine. I am not a fan of overpaying for a free agent.
Koivu had only two teams on his list the day he went to UFA. So statistically Murray had a good shot at signing him. It came down to roles for the team and the fact that he plays the same position as his brother, so he literally would be taking ice time away from Mikko if he had signed in Minny. Lydman was a great signing, but was probably sold by Selanne/Koivu. Fasth only signed because he was offered a one-way deal (which no other team was offering.) I don't buy into the argument that he is trying to get younger, especially when his signings since he took over are players like Selanne, Koivu, Boynton, Eminger, Emery, Green, Lydman, Mara, Sutton, Bell, Allen, Souray and Dvorak. All these guys have been reclamation signings at great cap hits as well as gambles. Some paid off and some didn't but the point is that it seems like he is forced into signing players like that to fill the roster with older vets.
This is an area that I also think Getzlaf and Perry need to get better at. They are locked in long term and need to do more to sell the team to UFAs. If Murray isn't able to do it on his own, his stars need to help him. Just as an example, for all of Kariya's faults, few players if any in Ducks history have been able to bring in FAs like he could.
Don't know BOB MURRAY?
The guy has been a involved in the game for what? 40+ years? 1000+ games played, GM of two franchises, almost 25 years of work in management... much of those years as Director of Player Personnel. He's absolutely been closer to the players than most GM's including Brian Burke.
Say players don't want to play in Anaheim. I'll buy that. Say players don't like the high taxes out here. Another reason not to sign. Small market. Lack of history. Soft fan base. Yes, yes, and yes... but doesn't know players? Doesn't know agents? Absolutely not.
What he doesn't do, what makes it extremely easy to get players to sign, is over pay... and if that's the reason why he's not getting UFA's he's doing a terrific job. Sather over pays. Holmgren over pays. Gillis over pays. Where do you rank those guys? Anyone can throw money at a player and get them. Look at what Lowe did to get Penner. Penner wasn't man-crushing on Lowe. He saw crazy dollars and he took the deal. That wasn't that hard was it?
Lump in guys like Lieno, Briere, Gaborik, Gomez, Richards...
As far as getting younger... Boynton, Eminger, Emery, Green, Lydman, Mara, Sutton, Bell, Allen, Souray and Dvorak.. all short term deals to fill holes while focusing on player development. The team is absolutely much younger, and has gotten that way by design. Don't confuse stop gaps and depth players like Sutton, Mara, Dvorak, even Koivu as long term solutions or being forced into anything.
Since Murray took over the team has not had a single opportunity to make a play for a major UFA. He was in salary hell when he inherited the team, with little latitude in which to work. You're not factoring that in on your judgement of him. The reality is, he's gotten exactly the type of players in terms of cost and need that he could afford. It's why Anaheim has remained semi-competitive while rebuilding - a feat few teams in the league have been able to do.
Posted by ZTHER on 30 May 2013 - 06:28 PM
I have to agree with Niemi on this one... as it's hard to argue with the Cheechoo analysis method.
Perry was only on 29 goal / 70 point pace this season, vs Ryan's breakout 19 goal / 53 point pace. I mean between the two of them, only Bobby Ryan was on pace for his worst statistical season as a professional... and obviously, you should trade a player before he plays even one minute into his new contract. It actually shocked me that both Parise and Suter were not traded before the start of the season this past year.
Next up: Why Vatanen will win the Norris Trophy, using the Bobby Orr analysis method.
Bobby Orr liked Oreos, Vatanen likes cookies over cake. Oreos are cookies. Vatanen is hungry for cookies. Norris Trophy.
Posted by semipro on 20 February 2013 - 11:01 PM