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  2. I don’t remember the source, but it was in a publicly available article on the internet. Might have been one of those where Jonathan M. was quoted as saying the refs stole the game from the Knights. Edit: It’s in Fowl’s link to the “scouting the refs” article above. Sorry for the triple post. Don’t know how to get rid of the first 2.
  3. I don’t remember the source, but it was in a publicly available article on the internet. Might have been one of those where Jonathan M. was quoted as saying the refs stole the game from the Knights.
  4. I don’t remember the source, but it was in a publicly available article on the internet. Might have been one of those where Jonathan M. was quoted as saying the refs stole the game from the Knights.
  5. Second Round Predictions: West: San Jose vs. Colorado: Sharks in 5. St Louis vs. Dallas: Blues in 5 East : Boston vs. Columbus: Columbus in 6 New York vs. Carolina: Isles in 7.
  6. dtsdlaw

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    And allow them to challenge goalie interference even when a penalty is called. A BS penalty shouldn't negate a valid coach's challenge on a goal overturned for interference.
  7. #9. GMBM will then trade the SJ/STL pick with Nick Ritchie for something better....
  8. Sure, but if you were then approached by the league and asked what led you to that call, would you throw your linesman under the bus? I haven't reffed in hockey, but I've umpired plenty in baseball, and if I made a call based on what my base umpire saw, I would own that call and take responsibility for it. All I'm saying is that it's conceivable that the referees from that game were given the boot because of their mismanagement of the situation, while the linesmen were allowed to continue.
  9. I guess anyone who predicted Lightning Vs Penguins and Preds Vs Golden Knights in the Conference Finals, is scratching their heads right now.
  10. So if both the sharks and the blues go to the conference finals what would our pick be?
  11. You gotta predict the one that's going to be the least likely. That's how these playoffs are going.
  12. Jasoaks

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    Me too....and I feel that creating a whole new situation for a video review because of something that (as far as I know) has happened ONCE and (sort of) dictated the outcome of the game (the Knights are at complete fault for allowing 4 goals in 4 minutes...) is the wrong reason to allow ANOTHER video review. I agree the off-side one needs to go, too. I don't care if the player's skate is a millimeter off the surface of the ice. The off-side video review, again, is a review that was put in place to stop another thing that rarely EVER happened...a player obviously being offsides and then scoring a goal. We need to stop making brand new rules to help prevent a thing that has already only happened once or twice...
  13. My biggest issue isn't even the call. Vegas has no one to blame but themselves for golfing this early. They completely collapsed. Up 3-0 and they let in four? Blame the pk and not the refs. I find it hard to believe the refs handed them four goals to help them win. Vegas shouldn't get any apology imo. It's a bad call but shouldn't be the end of the world. Also, if the refs are getting blamed for this and aren't being let into the next round, shouldn't they also be blaming Vegas for that? Someone mentioned that it happened twice before. Vegas got destroyed and couldn't keep composure. This should be the end of the discussion. Refs suck yeah yeah, but Vegas was worse.
  14. nieder

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    I'm getting a bit sick of all the added video reviews in hockey but I would be fine with this as long as they get rid of offside reviews. Keep coaches challenge goalie interference reviews. Get rid of offside reviews. Add reviews for all major penalties (i.e. not a coaches challenge). Have Toronto look at it for 30 seconds (i.e. before the play starts again). If they can't make a decision in that 30 seconds that the refs were mistaken then play on.
  15. Fowl

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    https://sports.yahoo.com/maple-leafs-mike-babcock-kyle-dubas-playoffs-boston-bruins-204323636.html
  16. Fowl

    playoff game...

    The video review for majors will get some discussion during at the off-season GM meetings.
  17. RobD360

    playoff game...

    I think a team should be able to do a video review to Toronto to object 5 minute penalties in order to be able to actually see what happened and make a more informed call
  18. Another reason I think Promoting Eakins would be Great for the Ducks as a whole. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck
  19. dtsdlaw

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    Certainly possible. Although going back to watch the replays again, it is O'Halloran who should have been looking directly at the play. He was at the blue line directly behind Pavelski and had an unimpeded view of the play. I think it was Cormier who dropped the puck and he turns to watch the puck so he doesn't see the cross check, so if a linesman indeed made the call then it would have been Brian Murphy, who was standing at the blue line on the opposite side of the ice but still probably had a clear view of the cross check (if he was looking that way). One thing's for certain though, Furlatt was screened and didn't have a view of the play at all, so I don't know how Furlatt gets dinged for the cross check major by his superiors. That said, Furlatt sure had a clear view of Eakin's high stick goal. He was the official standing a few feet away who signaled the goal call. I wonder if the NHL will apologize to Doug Wilson for that missed call, since they're sending Furlatt home too. btw, I concur with your dislike of the rule and I hope the competition committee will take a look at it. It could sure use some clarity as to what "severity of contact" means, and I also don't like that the only options for a cross checking penalty are (a) a minor or (b) a major + game misconduct. Seems like there should be a double minor option for cross checks that don't have an intent to injure but cause some kind of injury inadvertently, similar to a careless high stick that causes blood. Would we even be talking about this at all if this had been a double-minor instead of a 5-minute major? Doubtful IMO.
  20. Fowl

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    From one of my favorite sites, Scouting the Refs. https://scoutingtherefs.com/2019/04/25991/nhl-apologizes-golden-knights-major-cuts-game-7-refs/ First time I remember such an apology....but it was an atrocious call.
  21. nieder

    playoff game...

    I understand that, it is ultimately the responsibility of the referee. But at the same time, these crews have to trust each other. If one of the linesmen said 'it was a crosscheck to the face and it was a major penalty', which is what the refs based their decision on, I think they would probably suffer the same fate and be dropped. I have reffed for 14 years. Linesmen are allowed to advise on Major penalties and Too Many Men calls only.. If my linesman came and said he saw a crosscheck to the face and it was worthy of a major penalty, I would have to trust them and make that call, even if I didn't see it.
  22. It falls on the referee to overrule the lineman. So even if the lineman said "I saw a crosscheck," it's the referee's job to determine whether a penalty should result and what that penalty should be.
  23. We shall see. Far as I am concern It will be NHL Draft and FA Frenzy in June and July. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck
  24. Fowl

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    I think he gets one more year. If he flops next year, Toronto may part ways with him, and his “fabricated legend of greatness” will go with it. Toronto doesn’t go on the cheap like Anaheim. They have money to burn.
  25. Fowl

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    The Athletic had a nice article on the call. Effectively, the refs made an outcome call. I usually don’t have an issue with Furlatt’s game call, but O’Halloran drives me nuts.
  26. nieder

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    I do wonder how much longer he will last in Toronto if he cannot get the Leafs out of the first round. He jumped ship when times got tough in Detroit and now can't get a pretty talent-laden roster even one series win. The only time Babcock has had success above and beyond what you would expect from a roster was 2003 in Anaheim, at least at the NHL level. Other than that he's had great rosters everywhere.
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