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  1. 12 points
  2. 12 points
    This was sent to my customer service contact: Kristen, Just making sure my account is such that I am not automatically renewed in February or whenever that is. I will make the decision on renewal closer to seat selection or whatever sort of later deadline there is. After Murray's statement followed by the trade, it is evident to me that management is not in tune with its customers. After the way the Samuelis didn't stand up for him publicly last year, I hope the Stars value what they have in him. My in-game experience continues to decline in the new year with people wandering all over the place during play and no apparent interest in stopping it via any announcement, video, etc. I guess the need to sell tickets results in a new type of crowd, so those of us "old-timers" (at 41) just become complainers and I guess are just holding on to hockey traditions that aren't important any longer. The decline in play and lack of addressing it also makes us visitors in our own arena, which really isn't fun, and sometimes doesn't feel safe with the apparent inability of vendors and security to recognize inebriation. I'd hate to throw away 12 years of support, but I don't even recognize the organization today, so it feels more like we just folded and the decision wasn't mine to make.
  3. 11 points
    It's a revealing article for sure. He started to feel weak in game 4 of the season, and to people close to him this was so apparent, that his wife had received multiple texts after the game asking if Eaves was OK. He started avoiding contact and in the following days, had a sort of panic attack as he literally couldn't breathe. It turns out the original Guillome-Barre diagnoses was FALSE and it is unclear up to this day what his problem and symptoms actually were. He had a shoulder injury during rehab, got surgery, shoulder is OK now and he is symptom free of any kind and is on schedule to be in the lineup Game 1. The rest is about how an instantly great fit he was on and off the ice and he wanted to come back without question, and as it was mutual, he got extended. He also mentions how hard it was for him feeling himself in the best shape of his life going into the season in September to feeling out of sorts and helpless by November. At that point he was trying to be the best father and husband he could under the circumstances. From then it went downhill and my take on the article is that his condition got worse and worse because of his mental state, he completely broke down and his body followed to the point he was restricted to a wheelchair. They went to multiple specialists, had a 100 tests to narrow it down but eventually they still would only be able to tell what it wasn't but not what it was. Then he met a friend of his, a strength and conditioning coach who treats patients completely broken down neurologically and he built him up mentally and phisically, or as Eaves mentioned, the guy rebooted him completely, but still couldn't point to a certain medical fact that triggered the turnaround. He was able to function as the head of his family again which reinforced him in his belief he was on the right path and he also credits the organization and the fans standing behind him pointing out the 'Patrick Eaves Beard Night' at the end of January that gave him another boost to fight and come back onto the ice a 100%. Now all issues seem to be gone, looks great, feels great, 'He's going to be just fine.' The articel closes with the feel good story of how he met his wife basically right after his Sens lost the SC to the Ducks in '07. He cleared his locker, drove home to Minnesota, made a stop on the way home in Chicago, met a girl and texted his friends that night 'I just met the girl I’m going to marry’. So he did. I'm going to flat out quote the ending of the article, because it's well written. "Thank goodness that 2007 Ducks-Senators series ended in five games. Otherwise, the two might not have met. “I lost the Stanley Cup,” said Eaves, “and I won a wife.” "
  4. 11 points
    Ahhhhhh You wanted the Duck fan version? Round 1 Ducks in 4 Round 2 Ducks in 4 Round 3 Ducks in 4 SCF Ducks in 4 Conn Smythe Nick Ritchie
  5. 11 points
    LOL... You must never have been to a Ducks-Kings game at Staples then.
  6. 10 points
    He’ll clear then get hurt on the drive down to San Diego
  7. 9 points
    The team is playing better because Carlyle sucked the life out of hockey, and once the guys on the roster had that weight off their shoulders, you or I could have gone back there to coach and they would have played better. That doesn't mean you or I should be the next full-time head coach of the Ducks. With as energized as the team has been under Murray, they're still 9-9. And even in games like last night where they won, they were outplayed for long stretches against a mediocre opponent. That's happened a lot less, but it's not like this team has gone on an epic run, dominating every team they've faced. The Ducks need a real hockey coach next season. Bob Murray is not it.
  8. 9 points
    He’s basically in a skills competition every game
  9. 9 points
    “We need to play a faster game.” trades one of the teams faster players...
  10. 9 points
    Shore has 17 points in 42 games, is 24, and costs less. Cogs wasn't very good at all this year. Going to miss him, but I like this trade for the Ducks.
  11. 9 points
    This makes a lot of sense in speaking to Fowler's issues. He's never been the most assertive player, but he looks incredibly tentative with the puck this season. He was always rated very highly in successful defensive zone exits. I haven't looked at the numbers, but he looks lost out there half the time. And his tentativeness kills any offensive momentum the Ducks might generate from a break out. It would make complete sense that it's a system thing, since I doubt Fowler forgot how to execute a breakout over the summer. Please fire Carlyle.
  12. 9 points
    @icemancometh Word is John Gibson is getting married today. Yes, I've already said he's signing a fat contract and his life away on the same day. #wonkwonk
  13. 9 points
    1. This statement is absurd. One of the best GMs in the league, in my opinion, is Steve Yzerman, former player. He has put together an amazing squad in Tampa Bay and has set themselves up to be a powerhouse for years to come. Another former player who has done a phenomenal job in management is Ron Hextall out in Philly. Thanks to him (and a little bit of luck), Philly not only boasts a formidable, playoff contention squad, but one of the best prospect pools in the league. The GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins when they repeated as cup champs was former NHL goaltender, Jim Rutherford. The GM of the Vegas Knights, (you know the team that just made the Finals), and chief architect of the Washington Capitals (you know the Stanley Cup Champs)? Former player, George McPhee. Personally, I couldn't care less if my GM has had playing experience or not, but to make the argument that college graduates with economic majors are more successful than former players is baseless. 2. Since taking over in 2008, the Ducks have missed the playoffs twice (2009-2010, 2011-2012) in a 9 year span. In that 9 year span, the Ducks have won their division 5 times. It is frustrating that we haven't won a cup in over 10 years, but making the playoffs 7 out of 9 years and winning 5 division titles certainly makes your argument that his GM ability is poor, weak. You want to argue that the Ducks need a new voice or direction, fine...that is certainly worthy of a discussion. You want to highlight recent mistakes made by BM, fine, they certainly deserve attention. Poor GMing as a whole? I think that is just a lazy argument when it comes to the whole body of work. 3. I can't wait to hear you defend this statement. Please explain how it is embarrassing to be a Ducks fan. I know Luke Schenn has an ugly mug, but c'mon. You think it is embarrassing to be a Ducks fan? How do you think Edmonton, Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Montreal, OTTAWA, Vancouver just to name a few feel after recent seasons? Those situations should bring true embarrassment to certain fan bases. 4. Going to call you out again here. Please cite a source where BM says that rookies need to be HAZED (pretty strong word here btw) in order to make it to the big show. 5. What the heck are you even talking about now? First off, BM doesn't decide lineup cards so strike one. Second, please name the rookies last year who were NHL ready and held back by BM's "old school of thought and hazing." Third, in case you haven't noticed, almost our entire top 4 defensive corp are home grown and came from our system. I saw plenty of times last season RC give Montour a humongous leash when it came to rushing the offensive zone and did not try to limit his speed. Before that, he did the same thing with Vatanen. For all of his faults, and Carlyle has A LOT of them, one thing that he deserves credit and not criticism is how he has developed our young defensemen in the system. Oh, you are probably just focusing on the forwards for your narrow argument. Yeah...Carlyle has REEEALLY held back on Rakell and Kase. Instead of playing on the top line, 1st PP, and 3 on 3, maybe Rakell should be playing 30 minutes a night and also put on some pads and give Gibson a break here and there. For Pete's sake, Kase got PROMOTED several times during the season when Perry went ice cold for stretches and had way more OT time than several veterans on the team. If you are talking about Nick Ritchie, I hate to say it but speed and enthusiasm are two words that probably won't be associated with him much during his career. Kevin Roy? Didn't really prove much except against the St. Louis Blues, but they extended his contract last week so it appears they want to give him another chance? Andy Welinski? Same situation. Seriously, I want to know which rookies or young players have been held back because of our "plow horse" tendencies.
  14. 9 points
    If we're going to have an albatross contract, I'd rather it be a player who's done amazing things for us in his career and isn't a has-been goon. When Perry does something frustrating, I get irritated for a minute before I think of the amazing goals he scored for us. When Lucic does something frustrating, I will hate him and his ridiculous contract even more. No thanks.
  15. 9 points
    If you deserve to win a cup...you should be able to win a game when one of (y)our top defensemen get suspended for one game...even if it happens twice!!
  16. 9 points
  17. 8 points
    The buyout works in Perry’s favor. If I were him, I would have outright refused a trade, and pushed them to either keeping me no or forcing the buyout option. It’s a business on the player side too. I think he makes more salary this way and controls where he wants to sign. I wish Perry nothing but the best.
  18. 8 points
    Makes sense to let Eakins finish the year in the AHL with the hopes of winning the AHL cup. Gives him more time to develop the kids and make a smooth transition to the big club next season. Now we need BM to end the season poorly so he gets canned in the off-season and all the stars will align.
  19. 8 points
    I'm 100% behind getting an interim coach at this point. Of course you'd prefer to replace your coach with someone you feel comfortable going forward with but I'm not sure they can afford to wait out the year anymore. It's beyond just losing now. There's a certain toxicity around this team that we've never seen before. The losing culture from the top down translates into bad habits for the youngsters, combined with complete lethargy for the rest of the players who have tuned their coaches out. It's setting the team up for future failure. Keeping Carlyle because of some misguided promise to give him a dignified exit after he delivered the two least dignified seasons this franchise has ever experienced sends an awful message to the fans. The Pond looked like a funeral parlour against the Blues and judging by how vocal the fan base has been online about their displeasure, there's no reason to expect that to get any better without ripping off the bandaid. Realistically speaking, the season will be doomed regardless of whoever is behind the bench. Where we pick in the draft will most likely rely on how Gibson closes out the season. This team has too much pride to fully embrace Crappo for Kaapo anyway, I don't think it's worth keeping Carlyle in the hopes of tanking. I admit an interim coach wouldn't be the most ideal solution, especially if there's a long term option to be had. It's still a better option than maintaining the status quo though. It would signal that the organization recognizes what we've witnessed over the last 12 months has been completely unacceptable and something is being done. At the very least it would win back some fans and hopefully work towards eliminating the team-wide allergies to work ethic, puck possession and actually playing defence.
  20. 8 points
    Just hope that I don't somehow get traded to a different message board, but with all the trades I wouldn't be surprised...
  21. 8 points
    I really don’t think we should move any of our top 4 Defensemen. Lindholm is a Norris caliber defensemen. I refuse to believe he just regressed Along with Fowler Manson and Montour. If we trade our top 4 because our coach sucks I’m done. I will not watch this team become the oilers
  22. 8 points
    And I'm glad we picked up another guy who gets the snot kicked out of him in possession. Let's have the puck even less! I'm sure that's the answer.
  23. 8 points
    I beg to differ. Ritchie is a 52 burger eater champion, a Kobayashi award finalist, a 2-time flap jack winner and a 2-time competitive food bingeing ALL-STAR. So yes, he also has high qualifications.
  24. 8 points
    They looked better in stretches, but boy were they inconsistent. That stretch included back-to-back losses to Montreal and Ottawa AND Arizona and Edmonton - while everyone was healthy and they were fighting for their playoff lives. I watched just about every game they played and even while they were putting up wins, they looked like they were barely getting by a lot of the time. That they ran out of gas is a symptom of the problem - they needed to ride Getzlaf like a rented mule to get there because of the lack of depth and because the system the coach runs is suboptimal.
  25. 8 points
    I get so irritated at the Kariya haters. How many of you had season seats between '93 and 2003? I did. I saw some pretty awful hockey. We were a running joke of the league for years. The ONLY thing that made it fun during all that losing in the early years was PK9. He gave you hope that maybe just maybe you would see something special that night and maybe because of it we might actually win. He had to endure the ridicule for years playing for the Mighty Ducks. Probably a bit tough for anyone who took their career very seriously. But he endured. So Colorado comes calling, with some good help I'm sure from his buddy Teemu, to come play for Colorado. Paul and Teemu had the same agent. Do you really think that Teemu didn't have a hand in pulling Paul away from Anaheim? Yea if you don't you're living in fantasyland. Get over it! Here is an article at the time for those who want to know all the mechanics of what went down. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jul/01/sports/sp-kariya1 I for one will ALWAYS have fond memories of my time watching PK9 on the ice and still claim his goal against NJ after being knocked into never never land by Stevens was the single loudest moment EVER at Ponda. I'll be there proudly October 21st.
  26. 8 points
    Lindholm - Manson Fowler - Montour Petersson/Larsson - Schenn Is what I think it looks like going into the season. Seeing how Luke Schenn is not Kevin Bieksa, and therefore an upgrade over Bieksa by not being Bieksa, I think this is a pretty good Dmen core.
  27. 8 points
    Well the 2017-2018 season is officially over. Congratz to the Washington Capitals and Alex Ovetchkin. I have to say that this was the first post season since 2007 that I have really enjoyed. Even though the Ducks crashed and burned in the first round, when the final four teams were determined I actually liked all four teams for once. (Well not the Jets so much). But it was nice to have a final four that didn't include the Pens, Hawks, Queens, Bruins, Predivers etc. Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who participates on these boards for another fun season. I always look forward to seeing what you all think about things happening with the Ducks and the NHL in general. I am always learning new things as well. So thank you all. I'll be visiting these boards as usual but wanted to wish everyone who is taking time off to have a great Summer and will see everyone back in the Fall.
  28. 8 points
    The highlight of the night was while the Preds fans were chant you suck, Winnepeg scored. Instant silence. Priceless.
  29. 8 points
    Don’t fret Jade. Ducks just weren’t good enough to compete with the championship caliber teams this go around. A full summer off to heal, and some needed changes should bring a more competitive team for 2018-2019. Hopefully, Carlyle moves to the front office, and a coach with a fresh message is assigned. Someone who is good with young players is a must.
  30. 8 points
    In the wins or the losses, forever Ducks fan. Following since 1993, moved to SoCal in 2012 to be close to the team, 18/19 season ticket holder as permanent resident in the US. Thanks François for everything <3 \_ \_ \_
  31. 8 points
    Lots of good points in this thread, but I disagree with the title. Here's why: 1. Kesler will return healthy next season. The early playoff exit (likely) will actually be a blessing for him, and he'll get several extra weeks to rehab and regain the strength needed. IMO he's been a shell of himself this season due to the surgery, but I also think that's because his season has been mismanaged. If my math is right, he's played 44/45 games since returning from injury. How does that happen to a guy coming off of major hip surgery? I know Kes is a warrior, but he should have been given a few more games off. That said, Kesler will be an elite shut-down centerman again next season after a full 5 months of proper rehab and conditioning. 2. Eaves will return next season. With the beard back in the lineup, we have a solid top-9. The Kesler line will do its thing (see #1), and the other two scoring lines will be centered by Getzlaf and Henrique with some combination of Rakell, Eaves, Kase, and Perry on the wings, all o fwhom have the ability to score 20+. Outside of 10 & 15, all of those guys on the top-3 lines also have the ability to play hockey at a higher tempo, which is certainly needed for today's game. Henrique certainly did in Jersey. Eaves did in Dallas. So the only excuse for not playing up-tempo hockey will be having a system in place that doesn't let them play that way. Which brings me to my next point... 3. Carlyle will relinquish the coaching duties. This may sound like a conspiracy theory, but I think BM's play this season was a set up to move on from RC if we didn't make a deep Cup run. RC has always made it clear that he doesn't trust young players in important situations, so what does Bob do? He's fills out the roster with veteran players that RC can "trust" and then lets RC sink or swim. But all the while, BM already knows he has his youth movement in place, and will need a coach that can nurture and develop young players. The 1st round collapse will confirm to ownership that RC is not able to coach this current group of veterans (in addition to not being able to coach young players). Meanwhile, BM has stocked the cupboards full of good young players the likes of Rakell, Kase, Montour, Larsson, Pettersson, Terry, Ritchie, Welinski, Jones, Steel, etc. and can use the excuse of an upcoming "youth movement" to let RC down easy. RC will be offered a front office position and will not be behind the bench next season, I'm 99% certain of it after this playoff collapse. 4. With RC out, the defense will regain its form from BB's last season when they won the Jennings trophy for fewest goals allowed. I think the next coach brings back a more attacking style, which will take some pressure off the defenders to play so much positional, physical hockey in their own zone. With a more attacking style, they'll be chasing dump-ins and moving the puck up ice quickly more than backing down into a shell, which plays to their strengths of skating and puck retrieval more than RC's current system does. We'll likely see more of the kids (Pettersson, Welinski, Larsson) but this group won't be so afraid to make mistakes without RC there, and will play much more effective team defense next season, which will lead to better break-outs, more possession, and ultimately a higher-tempo of play that can hang with the elite teams in the league. There are also a handful of solid veteran D-men on contracts that expire in 2019-2020, so BM will have the opportunity to add a rental for a playoff run next season (someone along the lines of a Methot, Coburn, Hjalmarsson, etc). 5. Gibson/Miller is as good as almost any tandem in the league. We rode Gibby hard this season, and I think that will just help him develop even more into an elite goaltender. You always have a chance when you can get elite goaltending. In sum: if you have quality/depth down the middle (Getzlaf, Kesler, Henrique), top-6 wingers who can score 20+ (Rakell, Eaves, Kase, Perry), a legit shut-down line (Cogs/Kes/Silf), an elite-level shut-down D-pair (Lindholm-Manson), a solid 2nd D-pair (Fowler-Montour), and quality goaltending (Gibby/Miller), your Cup window is open.... as long as you have the system and coaching in place to get 19 guys to buy in and play as a team.
  32. 8 points
    IMO we don’t need tinkering with rookies. We just need our best players to play like our best players. Our top five highest paid forwards (Perry, Getzlaf, Kesler, Henrique, and Rakell) have combined for 0G/2A and 12 PIMs through the first two games at home. That’s why we’re down 0-2. It’s not the refs. It’s not the lineup choices for the 4th line or the 3rd pairing. It’s not even the absence of Fowler. Our best players are simply not getting it done.
  33. 8 points
    It looks like he was going for a shoulder check and missed too far ahead of the play, but I could be wrong. Whether it was intentional or not, that looks worse than Cogs' hit to me. But the NHL is okay with continuing to slap Marchand on the wrist even though he might eventually stab someone with his skate on the ice, so I'm sure they'll let Doughty off with a no more than a game. Actually, hold on, this just in:
  34. 8 points
    https://www.ducksalorange.com/home/kesler-travels-early-to-nashville-just-to-annoy-ryan-johansen
  35. 7 points
    They got Brian Burke on Sportsnet talking about how you always draft the best player available and all I can think of is Logan MacMillan
  36. 7 points
    The Ducks nominated Eaves as their candidate for the Masterton trophy today. I don't have a problem with that considering everything he's been through in his career but I think Kesler easily deserves the award outright. Regardless of how you feel about how he performed, grinding through 60 games and playing those insane Carlyle matchup minutes in his awful condition was an incredible feat for Kesler. If setting a goal of 1000 games and doing everything in his power to reach it in spite of his increasingly broken body doesn't embody "perseverance, sportsmanship & dedication to hockey", nothing else will.
  37. 7 points
    I'd rather have Kesler in a wheelchair on the ice scoring nothing but hotdogs at intermission than a piece of poop like Dustin "there goes your knees" Brown.
  38. 7 points
    Disagree. I believe, as last night shows, when the forwards are playing a faster game and getting more than one shot on net each possession, the D does just fine. The dump and chase was killing the D. The forwards were standing around and not giving many options for outlet passes so the puck came right back. The D showed last night that they can play. I also feel the changes to the pairings has helped a great deal. Fowler seems comfortable with DelZotto and Manson and Lindholm should have never been separated. Monty and Megna are the weakest pairing but fared just fine. If you look at last night's ice time, it was pretty well spread out across the lineup which says a lot about this team. It is starting to look more and more that it wasn't the players RC had to work with, it was the way he used them and the system he used. For the first time in a long time, I'm looking forward to the next game.
  39. 7 points
    BM taking over as Coach might be a VERY VERY good thing. If the team continues to fail, and the rubber hits the road, BM might be looking for another job. Kill 2 birds with one stone. If on the other hand the team starts playing a better brand of hockey, the question will have been answered - it was RC's fault. IMHO This will also be a test of Team Leadership - can Getz and the A's be able to spark the rest of the team ? We'll see !!
  40. 7 points
    I watched the game on the Ducks feed so I can't confirm but apparently the Sportsnet guy between the benches said that Getzlaf and some of the other guys were yelling at Carlyle to pull Gibson after the 4th or 5th goal. Did anyone catch this? I've only seen a few comments about it on twitter but the team is so dysfunctional it sounds legit enough to believe. Purposely leaving your star goalie who has worked his ass off all year to carry your incompetent team and staff in to suffer through a period like that should be the final straw. Of course you could probably build a house out of all the "final" straws that should've gotten Carlyle fired by now.
  41. 7 points
    This "aging" thing is making me laugh. Cogliano is 31 and may be the best conditioned athlete in the entire league. I'll bet anyone here that Cogliano plays more NHL games than Shore does from here on out. Probably score more goals than him too.
  42. 7 points
    Those playoffs have nothing to do with his recent play. But you tried to shoot down Gotchabari's point by writing that he only played well until the all-star break in 2017 and hasn't played well since then. That's simply not true. He was tremendous shadowing McDavid in the series against the Oilers and he also held Monahan/Gaudreau to zero E/S points in the 4-game sweep. Yes, Elliot was atrocious in that Calgary series, but the first 3 games were decided by one goal and if not for Kesler doing his thing against the Flames top line that series could have been much different too. So I don't think you can just dismiss Gotcha's point about making a WCF in his first year of the extension. Kesler was a HUGE reason we got there. No Kesler, no WCF in 2017. That seems pretty obvious to me. As far as his recent history goes (i.e. those +/- stats people are pointing at), I blame RC for that. As I mentioned in the earlier post, Kesler is currently experiencing the highest percentage of D-zone starts of his entire career, even more than his Selke finalist seasons. IMO, that's crazy for a guy who is still rebuilding strength in a reconstructed hip. And it's not like Kesler is tapping himself on the helmet every time there's a defensive zone draw against the opponents' top lines. RC is doing that. RC is grinding Kesler right now. He did last season after Kesler returned from surgery too. How many nights off did Kesler get last season, even after we clinched a playoff spot? I could be off by one, but believe the answer is "none." It's hard to think that the current workload RC is piling on him will be sustainable over 82 games plus playoffs (if we get in), but the Keslord will keep grinding and taking pressure off Getz and Rico for as long as his body will let him. That's just who he is. That may not be good for Kesler's numbers (which will also make his contract look bad), but its good for the team. And I think that's really all he cares about.
  43. 7 points
    I know we all justifiably rip on the guy for his play on the ice, but there's no doubt he's giving everything he has out there. And off the ice, he seems like a genuinely good person. We've heard about his character in the locker room, and we've seen those funny videos where he pranks the team, but I read this piece today and I felt like I had to share it. In this day and age, you never know, of course, if there's a difference between the public persona and what has gone on behind closed doors. It's still a great thing to be able to share a sad, but important story about someone trying to make the world a better place. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kevin-bieksa-will-never-stop-talking-rick-rypien/
  44. 7 points
    As someone who is from the east region. I can promise you this and this promise is to all Ducks Fans. I will keep eye on him and how well he does as I am doing with Morand and Groulx along with Drew. It's important to know and I will do it for you guys.. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck
  45. 7 points
    This was always going to be a tough sell for Bob... BM: Sure he led us in TOI during the playoffs, but Monty only has 1 1/2 seasons of NHL experience for us. We can't really gauge his full value! Arbitrator: He's 24. Why didn't you call him up sooner to get a good look at him? BM: Because we had Kevin Biek..... oh. Well, he went 50 straight games last season without scoring a goal! Arbitrator: Who is your coach? BM: Arbitrator: I should give him an extra million just for that.
  46. 7 points
  47. 7 points
    Props to John Ahlers. I think it was during Friday's game, Cogs got hit high in the head, and no penalty was called. John said, "I sure hope Cogs doesn't get in trouble for that."
  48. 7 points
    Because he's our best puck mover. Also if you watch any game you can point to about 20 times where he skates the puck out of trouble in the defensive zone. What Fowler brings to the table doesn't really appear on traditional stats - but if you look at advanced stats for stuff like controlled zone exits, he's an absolute master. If you're waiting for him to turn into a hitter you're going to be waiting a long time - obviously it's his biggest weakness but BM was aware of this when Fowler got his contract so I'm not sure why that would suddenly be a big issue. He's not going to be paid like Doughty, who will likely get $8M+ from some team this offseason. As for Brayden McNabb being better? I don't even know where to start with that statement.
  49. 7 points
    Giordano would've gotten a gold medal.
  50. 7 points
    Poor Z. Now who is he gonna stalk at the coffee shops. Providing he already didn't buy Andersens house.
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