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  1. 10 points
    He’ll clear then get hurt on the drive down to San Diego
  2. 9 points
    The team is playing better because Carlyle sucked the life out of hockey, and once the guys on the roster had that weight off their shoulders, you or I could have gone back there to coach and they would have played better. That doesn't mean you or I should be the next full-time head coach of the Ducks. With as energized as the team has been under Murray, they're still 9-9. And even in games like last night where they won, they were outplayed for long stretches against a mediocre opponent. That's happened a lot less, but it's not like this team has gone on an epic run, dominating every team they've faced. The Ducks need a real hockey coach next season. Bob Murray is not it.
  3. 8 points
    Of course there would be more interest in a new franchise vs one over 25 years old. That's a no brainer. And the last time I looked, arena wasn't "empty." They're averaging over 16K per game for a team that's REBUILDING/RETOOLING. Some people just see the glass as half empty. I get it. I am an original SSH, and am still one (full season too, no mini plans for me) to this day. Have loved the team since day one, and still do. I just realize there's going to be down yearS. I'm sure your interest will peak again when they start winning. And the 16K average will go up too with winning. There's a name for such fans, but it's Christmas, so I'll leave it at that. Kids are playing hard. We're only 3 games under .500 and that's with another year of injuries. Personally I like the smaller crowds. Easier to park and shorter concession lines. MERRY CHRISTMAS.
  4. 7 points
    I would stop watching the NHL if this happened. I don't want players making a business decision as to whether they will step in front of a shot to block it or chase a puck into a corner because it might cost them money if they get injured. If you're going to financially penalize players for trying hard, you might as well go back to the flat-bladed stick and make them play by collegiate rules to keep them all safer on the ice. That would result in a much worse on-ice product. IMO, players should be able to play their games to the best of their ability without worrying that their income will be affected by an on-ice injury. And speaking of on-ice injuries, your bus driver's "sick day" analogy doesn't work here. Hockey injuries are typically work-related injuries (unless you're Patrick Eaves or Dustin Penner) and would be eligible for worker's compensation claims in the real world (if sports were actually the same as the real world, which they're not). In most US states I think worker's comp pays something like 2/3 of the salary for workers injured on the job who are unable to keep working. And you know how injured workers get the rest of their lost salary? They sue. Do we really want players suing the NHL, teams, coaches, and each other every time they miss games due to injury? That would also be terrible for the game (and also for us fans, because litigation ultimately just makes everything more expensive for the end-users/consumers). Finally, there's also that specter of concussions. What you're suggesting here will cause players with significant head injuries to return to the ice before they are ready due to fear of losing thousands or even millions of dollars in lost wages because of missed games. These players are human beings, not gladiators, and we should be thankful the NHLPA exists to make sure they are treated as human beings and allowed to heal their significant injuries according to their own body's timeline. So IMO, guaranteed contracts exist for both the good of the game AND the good of the player. The onus should instead be on the GMs to make sure that a team is built properly within the salary cap rules. That is their job. And if they can't do their job well, ownership should find some else to do their job.
  5. 7 points
    I'd rather have Kesler in a wheelchair on the ice scoring nothing but hotdogs at intermission than a piece of poop like Dustin "there goes your knees" Brown.
  6. 7 points
    Disagree. I believe, as last night shows, when the forwards are playing a faster game and getting more than one shot on net each possession, the D does just fine. The dump and chase was killing the D. The forwards were standing around and not giving many options for outlet passes so the puck came right back. The D showed last night that they can play. I also feel the changes to the pairings has helped a great deal. Fowler seems comfortable with DelZotto and Manson and Lindholm should have never been separated. Monty and Megna are the weakest pairing but fared just fine. If you look at last night's ice time, it was pretty well spread out across the lineup which says a lot about this team. It is starting to look more and more that it wasn't the players RC had to work with, it was the way he used them and the system he used. For the first time in a long time, I'm looking forward to the next game.
  7. 6 points
    He's a centre with a G and a Z in his last name. He passes my official "I have no idea what's going on here so draft the player with the coolest sounding name" test.
  8. 6 points
    What would even be the point of this though? It's not like we have some younger stud we're symbolically handing the future over to the same way it was back when Getzlaf got named captain. It's literally pointless change for the sake of change. He's not Joe Thornton disappearing nearly every spring, being outplayed by his teammates and taking the fall while his stacked team implodes. He's been both the best performer and leader on the team throughout his tenure. He still is. The team clearly goes as he goes and the last 9 seasons have been the most consistently successful stretch this franchise has had. They haven't won a cup during his tenure but I don't see how anyone can point a finger and blame him seeing as how Silfverberg has been the only guy whose playoff performances even come close to Getzlaf's. Stripping him for Fowler too? Just.. why?
  9. 6 points
    ANYONE, and I mean A.N.Y.O.N.E. but the preds. Colorado, Boston, even L.A. But not the Preds. Preds are the worst of the worst of the worst OF the WORST.
  10. 6 points
    There isn't a lot that annoys me more in current discourse than to label anyone who cares about what someone said as a "snowflake." If we want to have a meaningful discussion about whether certain language is harmful and why it's harmful, we can do that, but by going immediately to "snowflake," all discussion is shut off.
  11. 6 points
    Hate to see Monty go but it's a real good deal for us. A first round pick plus a decent prospect.
  12. 6 points
    Watching the post-practice interviews from today... these guys are over the moon that RC is out. They’re not even trying to hide it. Lots of smiles and laughing during the practice too from what the videos show. Even from Bob. After two months of pure garbage, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them turn around and sweep this homestand now. They SOOOO wanted Carlyle fired.
  13. 5 points
    They could have used Perry's money to sign a top RW in free agency that year. Top RW's that year in UFA were Nathan Horton, David Clarkson, and Jarome Iginla. In hindsight, Anaheim probably dodged a bullet.
  14. 5 points
  15. 5 points
    Freddie is still the ballsiest goalie in the league. One minute left in a one goal playoff game and this guy is making diving poke checks and trying to shoot on empty nets. I love him haha
  16. 5 points
    Shut it down, Kes. I give him credit for gutting through the injury and getting to 1,000, but at some point he's a detriment to himself and the team. I don't think rest will really be much of a factor ... at some point you're just a 35-year old with bad hips that can't skate. Father Time is undefeated for a reason.
  17. 5 points
    What's the current record for the number of shooters in a shoot-out? Picture it - they play to a 0-0 tie and then go 18 rounds of shoot-out with every shooter intentionally missing the net, until finally Holzer loses the handle on the puck at the top of the circles and Quick dives out of the way and lets it dribble past him for the loss. The league then gives LA the top overall pick and the Ducks fall to 4th as two other teams draw in ahead of them. smh. This season....
  18. 5 points
    Corey Perry is back! Per Eric Stephens, Perry skated on the first line at practice toady, with Rakell and Getzlaf. Looks like Eaves may be back too, as he rotated in on the fourth line. I think Perry can help the Ducks. In the video they showed of him skating the other day with the team, he actually looked a lot faster than he has looked in years. Maybe the therapy for his knee injury caused him to strengthen his lower body, helping him become a little faster. Also, the surgery was said to also help fix a nagging knee issue Perry has had since his junior days. To have a faster version of Perry would be pretty cool. And he obviously has played a lot of his career on a line with Getzlaf. I think he can make a big impact for the Ducks down the stretch, and hopefully help get us in the playoffs. Agree? Let's Go Ducks!!!!
  19. 5 points
    There a part of me that really wishes the players and Gibson would just start standing still on the ice like statues and refuse to actually play until both Carlyle and Murray are gone. Murray can only sit so many players and send down even fewer. This situation is worse than when Carlyle was fired the first time. If the Samueli's had a lick of sense they would fire both of them, and go get Quenville.
  20. 5 points
    A class move. Notice he didn't throw the players under the bus in any of his statement. He took responsibility and emphasized the team's mission. Color me impressed. A stark contrast to what comes out of the ducks "management".
  21. 4 points
    Maybe this only reinforces your point, but Kesler wasn't a free agent. We traded Bonino and Sbisa (and picks) for him. But speaking against your point, I think Murray has largely been handcuffed by circumstances here. You mention "Sean" Pronger, who was a marginal NHL forward who played for the Ducks in the 90's. I'm sure you mean CHRIS Pronger, and the Ducks traded for him. That was very similar to the Kesler deal where a player wanted out of his situation and the Ducks took advantage of it. Scott Niedermayer was only signed because his brother played here. Teemu Selanne is a special case since he had deep ties to the organization already. Burke signed a few more free agents, but those were, from memory, pretty bad signings that really wreaked havoc on the cap (Schneider, Bertuzzi). I think there are two things going on here: one is that until very recently, the Ducks have not been a cap team. We can blame the Samuelis for that, but the Ducks have never gone out and been huge players in the free agent market because ownership didn't allot the money to do it. But I also think it's tough to get the top free agents here. Yes, the weather is nice, but it's not a highly visible franchise and it's on the West Coast. California taxes might play a part for some guys, too. If your'e one of the top guys (like a Niedermayer) and you're interested in being a star (not like a Niedermayer), you're going to want to go to more prominent location. I don't think it's a deal-breaker for most guys, but I do think it means the Ducks' offer will need to be 10% greater to get those guys in the door. I think Murray realized that early on and has looked to improve through trade (where he's been fairly successful) and on the margins through depth signings (where it's been a mixed bag except for his love of defensive pylons). To be clear, I don't think Murray has been fantastic - I think he's been mostly good, but his time has run its course. I would not be surprised that if the Ducks don't make the playoffs this season and then continue to struggle next season that he'd be gone sometime in early 2021.
  22. 4 points
    Nailed it! That's what I see too. Reputation or not, I would hope/expect that Kane will get the 10 games he deserves for this. Even if that was Connor McJesus doing it, that's a category II suspension for sure.
  23. 4 points
    Ugh....bringing up Vermette for SLASHING a ref...you mean his light tap that didn't mean anything???? But anyway, back to topic at hand. Yes he absolutely should be. At first when I watched it it looked he may have thought that was Knights player...but then reading his comments made me just hate him more and he was trying to justify pushing the ref 'cause hte ref "attacked him"....made me realize he did it intentionally and 100% should be suspended. From what I can tell the ref got accidentally slashed, sure (and also much more dangerous of a slash than Vermette's love tap), but the ref didn't take a bunch of strides to tackle Kane. He was keeping him from the other player and then Kane lost his balance and took the ref with him. That's a category II, no question. What upsets me the most is that he will get the category 2 suspension and will think he doesn't deserve it. Classless player.
  24. 4 points
    Bold takes 2k20 in order of most to least likely: -Rakell has a career year -Guhle blossoms into a glorious sale rack version of Hampus while the rest of the defence not so miraculously remembers how to hockey again -Getzlaf puts up his most Adam Oates season yet with <10 goals and >65 assists plus a Masterton nomination for all the years of shade from Mark Messier -Ducks over-perform 2011 style and ride an exciting March into a pacific wildcard spot against the division winning Flames who promptly get swept (side note: Flames get swept regardless of who they play) -J.S. Gibson leads them to the conference finals with a GAA under 1.30GAA -Silfverberg channels his inner Silfverberg and carries the team through to the SCFs -GMBM doesn't panic trade for a Mark Boroweicki-tier player during a mid January slump yes I have been drinking tonight why do you ask? (seriously though, I feel like this team will exceed expectations which are already negatively skewed because of how hilariously awful they were in the last year and a half under Carlyle)
  25. 4 points
    On the contrary, the signings of Deslauriers and Grantzlaf, and the fact that we haven't traded Devin Shore or any of our RWs to clear the way for Jones, Comtois, Terry and Sherwood, leads me to believe that Bob Murray may be stocking up for a serious run at the Calder Cup.
  26. 4 points
    Hahahahaha that Subban trade is amazing Only Norris calibre defenceman on that entire overrated Trashville blueline and you trade him away for peanuts after misusing him during his entire stint with your worthless team. New Jersey is legitimately going to be so fun next season with a healthy Hall to go with Hughes and Subban. New frigging Jersey is never supposed to be fun I'm in shock!
  27. 4 points
    I still have a beef with BM trading the leading goal scorer from the previous playoff run in DSP for a guy who mailed in every one of his playoff games and then had the nerve to trash talk the organization on his way out. Adding Vermette a few years before he became a 4th line neutral zone faceoff circle enforcer would've been nice too. The biggest mistake of the 14/15 season IMO was still letting Perreault walk without even qualifying him. Okay, second biggest mistake cause I'm still trying to forget Anaheim Duck Wisniewski ever existed. The 2016 team was the real missed opportunity. Top defensive team in the league, magical midseason turnaround, smart deadline additions, and great goaltending only to get wrecked by injuries before running into a lanky stack of horseshoes in net who only seems to show up for playoff matchups against Anaheim. I think they could've easily gotten past the Sharks and Blues that year if their domination in that game 7 translated to the scoreboard.
  28. 4 points
    Bob also last season called out the defense for no one stepping up to be a leader...so...I'm guessing Fowler isn't exactly the leadership material.
  29. 4 points
    I can't believe I just screamed YES at the top of my lungs for a freaking Dallas Stars goal. This would be the dirtiest I've ever felt in my life if it wasn't for the fact that they eliminated the biggest disgrace in hockey after only 6 games I don't even think I care about what happens from here on out. This was the best possible ending for such a lame year of hockey. Trash is gone and it's beautiful. So much for that insurmountable home ice advantage. Best defence in the league? Vezina calibre goalie? Maybe if you want to hang up another joke western conference regular season champions banner at the end of the season. I hope they end up getting poked by all the catfish after they end up making a total mockery of the golf links the same way they do with a hockey rink and have to reach into the water to retrieve their balls.
  30. 4 points
    I like what I've read about Zegras. But who are we kidding, he's neither Swedish nor a defenseman. So I'm just going to assume that GMBM is all-in on Victor Soderstrom until he shows me otherwise. Especially after I just read this assessment of Soderstrom: So he's the essentially the Swedish Cam Fowler.... GMBM is probably already in love.
  31. 4 points
    I promised myself I wouldn't watch a second of that trash series in Dallas before it started but I saw the score towards the end and figured it was a good time to tune in and see some mustard tears. I watched maybe 2 minutes and the first thing I see is Captain Joke-e slash a Star and place a weak fly-by crosscheck into his lower back before skating away from the scrum he started and towards the refs like he did nothing. Meanwhile his stupid little garden gnome of a defence partner came in to grab the Dallas player's stick so he could toss it to the ice like he's some tough guy. I didn't see who the Dallas player was but he was just shaking his head and laughing in their faces. I have no idea how nobody has even tried putting those two morons in check yet. They're such an embarrassment they can make Doughty look like a saint on ice by comparison. I regret everything.
  32. 4 points
    Nick Ritchie doesn't move the needle enough to get the Ducks higher in the draft. It would have to be a more significant player, a prospect with a higher ceiling, BOTH of our 1st rounders, or maybe even a 1st in the 2020 draft.
  33. 4 points
    What is good luck and where can we buy some?? Can't believe I might actually end up cheering for Dallas in the first round if they go up against Calgary. I didn't watch all of Friday's game and it was a blocked shot so I doubt it was anything aside from a freak incident but Giordano already has enough blood on his hands. Shame the Ducks Are Not Playoff Bound™ cause the Flames are waste incapable of winning in Anaheim and I'll never get tired of seeing them get eliminated.
  34. 4 points
    I'm still not understanding the idea that we need to finish strong. The next game the Ducks will play that counts won't be for 6 Full Months. There's zero chance of any carryover effect, not to mention there will be a brand new coach, and several new players, so how well they're playing this coming week is completely meaningless in the big picture. The only thing that makes sense is that each player wants to play well, and not sacrifice their future prospects by showing signs of quitting or playing poorly. That is a constant. But in 180 days, there is nobody, not even those on this board, who are going to remember how the Ducks finished the final week of this disaster of a season. Finishing in the bottom 5 is no guarantee of any success in choosing their pick wisely, but it certainly is a big advantage having more players to choose from.
  35. 4 points
    True. We won in 07’ because we lucked out better than any team in 03’ draft, which is the best draft class in NHL history. Also because we had one of the best defenseman of all-time’s brother and another HOF defenseman who’s alleged dalliances forced him out out of Edmonton. The Ducks had to have all of that fall in place to win then and I’m not counting on them to be that level of fortunate again. I want the highest pick possible as a hedge against not the lottery. I agree that Murray fired Carlyle way too late. He should have been fired at least two months earlier or kept him through the season. It’s funny because he made it to where fans were angry/demoralized because of how awful the team was and weren’t winning, to a healthy shift of fans being upset that they are winning now and hurting ours draft odds. Good thing that we are saddled with him for 3 more years. I’m putting more of my hopes on getting the St. Louis pick since they are more likely to finish closer to 20th and will also have a very hard first round match up against Winnipeg or Nashville. Plus, even if they win that series, the draft slots don’t change until after the second round. On top of crushing us last year, the Sharks also had the better pick.
  36. 4 points
    Show me any player who will say otherwise when the coach is ALSO the guy who pays you.
  37. 4 points
    How long have you been following BM at free agency? Do you ever remember when he went for the best available player? He usually stays calm for the first 3-4 days of free agency, then signs some no-name 4th line NHL/AHL-borderline player.
  38. 4 points
    I think it's best for all of us if this Thread is Closed...all Ducks Fans know from Orange County and elsewhere Ducks are not going to make the Playoffs due in the state they are in. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck
  39. 4 points
    Ok, let's not forget that since joining the team Silf is 2nd of points produced during the playoffs...second behind only Getzlaf. I wouldn't exactly say this is terrible. He has a value and skill. He hasn't been the problem.
  40. 4 points
    HEY RANDY, TRY A LITTLE PAUL MAURICE: “We don’t have it happen very often,” said head coach Paul Maurice said after the 5-2 loss. “It’s almost in some ways easier to process this and to get ready for Ottawa, because it’s not like a guy let you down or you played your a– off and the goalie let you down. When I said we were no good, the coach is in on that too. We were all horse—t tonight. Big time. “The coach was no good, the players were no good, the food was no good. We just hope that the plane works.”
  41. 4 points
    I feel the Ducks will be back next season (hopefully with a top-5 pick if not more...) It's tough to look at the team right now and think they can be good as is...but I feel that with Kase coming back from injury, Perry being healthy from training camp on (yes, I think he brings more positive than negative, even next season), some young guys come up (some combo of terry, comtois, lunderstrom, steel, jones), and a NEW coach at the helm to use the defense in a proper way/system...this team can be competitive as soon as next season. These aren't bad players. Which is tough to remember right now, I know. They are just grossly being misused. Yes the older guys are getting older...but they still have things to provide. Kesler might have to think long and hard about his play though... :\ But that's one guy. Rico and Getzlaf are still going to be affective players. And that's just looking realistically, if you ask me. In my wish-list world...we'd get rid of Wilford/Morrison too and bring in some new assistant coaches along with a new head coach. We aren't your classic bad team...we have an abundance of good players doing things wrong.
  42. 4 points
    The biggest insult is that he isn’t honest with the fan base or feel like he needs to explain himself. He’s got job security so he seems like he couldn’t care less if the fan base is furious or that the Ducks are the laughing stock of the league. Why would people have faith in him to fix this team going forward now? He’s a clown and should be fired so that he and his bff Randy can go start barstool and toaster business together...then run that into the ground also.
  43. 4 points
    The point is Bieksa should never have even been offered a contract. He was never going to regain his offensive output as his early days in Vancouver and at 5mil per year with a NMC was just lunacy. Never mind hindsight, it was foresight that should have been taken into consideration.
  44. 4 points
    The last chance we had of the playoffs was Kase going down injured our speed and energy from that spark plug will be sorely missed .
  45. 3 points
    Fine, lets move him to LW. I think Rakell is better than Perry. I think Max Jones should play top 6 over Perry. Perry can play 3LW at 8.5M and Ritchie can play 4th line. That leaves Comtois in San Diego. As much as I love Perry, I fully support the buyout. We're not winning the Cup, and I for one would rather see the kids skate.
  46. 3 points
    From a cap hit perspective, this makes no sense at all. Perry’s contract is over in 2 years. It’s highly unlikely the Ducks are going to be Cup contenders in the next 2 years, and now with the buyout the cap hit will extend 2 more years, albeit at a lower amount. I wish Perry the best. I thought the chance of him returning to his former form was low, but still hoped he would and score 25+ goals again. Now the hope is gone. This is a sad day.
  47. 3 points
    Have you all forgotten how horrible Holzer was for the majority of the season? It would be unwise to keep him on the roster, unless you have become accustomed to mediocre D-men with no upside. Try not to become emotional train wrecks whenever a player is moved...its a business with a revolving door.
  48. 3 points
    I believe GMBM has been on a scouting trip in Europe and just got back to SoCal too. I wouldn’t be surprised if this plan had been cooking for a few weeks (since the 12-game losing streak) but that GMBM didn’t want to cancel his all-important scouting trip to do this and was hoping the all-star break would buy more time. I’m also in agreement with semipro that this move could really change things up for the rest of the season. This is not a last place team talent-wise, even playing RC’s terrible system. It is their effort and lack of caring that have made them truly suck lately. The next player who gives a half-a$$ effort with GMBM behind the bench will be gone. Probably to an NHL outpost like New Jersey, Florida or Columbus. So I fully expect the players’ effort to dramatically improve. Which means we probably play middle-of-the-pack hockey for the rest of this season. So who should we select with the #7 pick?
  49. 3 points
    Well...if Eakins can keep his team in a game by the end of the 1st period, or BM for that matter, then they are already an improvement over RC. Every single game we played on this road trip was over by the 1st period...I would have taken Wild Wing as coach at this point.
  50. 3 points
    In which playoffs? 2017? I disagree with that. Bieksa was a beast in those playoffs. He was part of the reason they got as far as they did. He got injured. That was part of the problem why we didn't go further. But more the issue was we didn't have goalie depth and Bernier couldn't step up to the plate. Also, I keep seeing people mention Bieksa was just to make Kesler happy...was that actually said somewhere by someone? Or eluded to? Or are we just trying to understand the super-odd NTC he was given? 'Cause I agree THAT was a very big mistake. But making Kesler happy is NOT a big mistake. Similar to giving Perry/Getz those big contracts back then...Bieksa came on when Kesler was at his selke-nominated self. No one can predict an injury. He's not the same 'cause of his injury. He could have easily still been a beast, right now. And furthermore...the defense played better last season WITH Bieksa and Beauch in the line up...so...right now, to me, it looks like they needed someone like them. Maybe he brought something else to the team we never saw but now are seeing what happens without him. Murray mentioned being upset with players not stepping up in leadership roles...it sounded like he was eluding to the defense. It could be those guys brought leadership that kept the D together.
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