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  1. 8 points
    The team is playing better because Carlyle sucked the life out of hockey, and once the guys on the roster had that weight off their shoulders, you or I could have gone back there to coach and they would have played better. That doesn't mean you or I should be the next full-time head coach of the Ducks. With as energized as the team has been under Murray, they're still 9-9. And even in games like last night where they won, they were outplayed for long stretches against a mediocre opponent. That's happened a lot less, but it's not like this team has gone on an epic run, dominating every team they've faced. The Ducks need a real hockey coach next season. Bob Murray is not it.
  2. 7 points
    Even the message boards wanted to tank
  3. 6 points
    The recent results of the sabres and rangers are really horrible. I can see us caching them. The Oilers, blackhawks and avs are out of reach I think. The nucks have a few games in hand. I gotta say I enjoy to see the team winning. At the end of the day you can play to finish last and end up picking 5th or something. Just play the game and get some confidence back. We'll see what happens april 9. I have confidence in BM's drafting.
  4. 4 points
    Show me any player who will say otherwise when the coach is ALSO the guy who pays you.
  5. 4 points
    Kesler earned that money and the contract was agreed to with the knowledge that this might happen. Yes, him retiring would be better for the team, but I am 100% against the GM asking him to do that. If Kesler feels like it's best, so be it, but the right thing for the organization to do is to put him on LTIR (assuming he's really hurt too badly to play) and pay him. Kesler put his body on the line every night, and would probably still do it if the doctors would let him. If he wants to retire and give that money back, that's very generous of him. But I won't think any less of him if he doesn't. That's his money.
  6. 4 points
  7. 3 points
    True. We won in 07’ because we lucked out better than any team in 03’ draft, which is the best draft class in NHL history. Also because we had one of the best defenseman of all-time’s brother and another HOF defenseman who’s alleged dalliances forced him out out of Edmonton. The Ducks had to have all of that fall in place to win then and I’m not counting on them to be that level of fortunate again. I want the highest pick possible as a hedge against not the lottery. I agree that Murray fired Carlyle way too late. He should have been fired at least two months earlier or kept him through the season. It’s funny because he made it to where fans were angry/demoralized because of how awful the team was and weren’t winning, to a healthy shift of fans being upset that they are winning now and hurting ours draft odds. Good thing that we are saddled with him for 3 more years. I’m putting more of my hopes on getting the St. Louis pick since they are more likely to finish closer to 20th and will also have a very hard first round match up against Winnipeg or Nashville. Plus, even if they win that series, the draft slots don’t change until after the second round. On top of crushing us last year, the Sharks also had the better pick.
  8. 3 points
    I feel like the kids playing well and getting confidence should pay off for next season. The question will be will that payoff + the player the Ducks pick outweigh keeping Carlyle and picking no worse than #3? I suspect it will (as long as we don’t really drop down to #10 or something), but it’s going to take awhile to truly judge it.
  9. 3 points
    BM mentioned that he isn't YELLING at the players. I think, for the young guys, that has made a difference. I'm not saying they should be coddled, but I do think that RC may have been taking out his frustrations on the players when he was part of the problem.
  10. 3 points
    In all the complaining and promises that we are losing our pick, we have not changed ranking once in two weeks, including tonight. And no, we are not tied with the Rangers right now as they have 2 GIH.
  11. 3 points
    LOL. Warren Buffet doesn't need more either and yet he’s still out there bank rolling the deals. We all want as much of that green paper we can get our hands on.
  12. 3 points
    Well he’s already given us that article and communicated to the fans that way so that does pave the way to LTIR. Again I really do think that one of the main intentions of releasing that article was to give the fans a heads up that he was headed toward that direction. Kess is the type of guy that’s works hard and now that he’s been hurting probably wouldn’t feel right to him if he just went in LTIR without first communicating in some way that his body can’t take it anymore to his fans beforehand. Kess has always been that type of first class kinda guy. If he does go on LTIR (or retire) he will be missed. One of my fav Ducks to play on this team ever. Such a stud of player. Do what you gottta do Kess-Boss, you will always be awesome!!
  13. 3 points
    Rather have the Ducks win then Tank...That is just me but It's better for us all. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck
  14. 2 points
    Edmonton’s biggest problem has been management more than the quality of their picks. We aren’t them or the current Senators but that’s not really something to celebrate. This was a year in which the Ducks were the worst team in the NHL until Carlyle got fired. They should have been a lock for a top-5 pick. I’ve said in others posts that if you look at Cup winning teams nowadays, they all went through rough seasons and got lottery picks to get there. Maybe San Jose or Vegas will break that this year, but as a general rule you need the highest-tier talent that usually only top-three and five picks picks provide. It’s what the Ducks also need most imo. Barring injury to Gibson and now no Carlyle, I don’t see the Ducks bottoming out enough to having good enough odds not to mention the luck to get the such a pick or picks. Pains me to say, but I’d rather be in LA’s position going forward.
  15. 2 points
    ^^ Bryan Murray drafted 10 & 15. Burke sucked at drafting.
  16. 2 points
  17. 2 points
    what the heck are you dudes drinking.
  18. 2 points
    Last night was a must lose game, so good thing the Jets came through. It’s too bad the Rangers really screwed us over on Tuesday. They lost at home to the Red Wings; they needed to win that game. Canucks took care of business against the Sens last night at least.
  19. 2 points
    I’ve noticed after like 5 games under his belt he has looked better than the last couple years for sure
  20. 2 points
    Quote from Gibson after the Florida game: John Gibson On staying calm in net Just playing my game, I'm happy to be back and playing and just trying to have fun with it and help the team win some games. On the team's improved play after his return from injury It seems that we have a different mentality. We just needed to change the atmosphere, it's a little more upbeat and it just seems that we are playing more of a team game. I think the biggest thing I've noticed is our compete level, whether we are winning or losing. I thought even the other night in Arizona we were down and we still fought to the end
  21. 2 points
    All the lottery teams are at the mercy of the ping pong balls. Odds haven't meant diddly squat for the 2nd and 3rd team as they have always fallen back. When the guy behind the bench is your boss and he's trying to figure out if you're staying or going, are you going to play bad? The guys aren't concerned with the lottery pick, they are concerned about their own futures and if BM was telling them to tank then he should be fired. I know the Ducks are not in this situation very often and yeah, it's exciting that we will be getting a top 10 pick but look at Terry and Kase. A 5th rounder and a 7th rounder. I think they are a pretty good indication that lottery picks are not always the best picks.
  22. 2 points
    I had the good fortune to be at Staples when Sheldon Brookbank decided Kyle Clifford needed facial reconstruction surgery. Fun fact: Brookbank is an assistant coach for the Blackhawks. Screw that team, trying to out tank the Ducks. But good for him getting a post-playing job.
  23. 2 points
    The team could convince him to retire AND then offer him the job as Moderator of " Between the Zambonies" for the same amount of money - that way we would ALL be HAPPY. IMHO
  24. 2 points
    Halfway through March and Tampa has already officially clinched the Presidents' Trophy. Let's see if they put up an Eastern Conference Regular Season Champions banner up with it.
  25. 2 points
    Sheldon Souray signed a 3 year $11M contract with Anaheim. He played 44 games and suffered an off-season injury and never played again. He retired after his contract expired, 2 years later. Expecting BM to try to convince Kesler to retire would be disrespectful to a guy who gave everything he had for this team, including playing injured until he no longer could.
  26. 2 points
    Only problem is that if you have a problem with the coach you're likely to be on your way out of town and I don't think that's a good way to draw free agents into town. They'll run when they hear Bob calling. Plus I don't like the idea of young talented kids getting into heated arguments with the guy who can trade them to spite them. Not a good combo.
  27. 2 points
    Correct! March 2, 2019 v. today: Before: Ducks were 11 points back of the Sabres and even on games (65). Now: Ducks are 2 points back and the Sabres have two games in hand. Before: Ducks were 7 points back of the Rangers and the Ducks had one game in hand. Now: Ducks are even in points and the Rags have two games in hand. Before: Ducks were 6 points back of Edmonton and Vancouver and even on games. Now: The Nucks are 1 point ahead with two games in hand. The Oilers are 2 points ahead with two games in hand. We play both teams next week. Before: Ducks were 1 point back of New Jersey (66) and had one game in hand. Now: Ducks are 6 points ahead and the Devils have one game in hand. With the games in hand I don't know if we'll finish above all of those teams in the final standings, but we are definitely moving in a different direction than they all are. I think we'll jump at least one or two of Buffalo, New York, Edmonton or Vancouver, and no one below us has a prayer of getting more points than the Ducks.
  28. 2 points
    It's time to remove this thread. Ducks will win more meaningless games and will miss playoffs by 4 or 5 points.
  29. 2 points
    When they were playing there, they had a similar record and were still stuck in 3rd. I've been watching all year trying to figure out what the big hubbub was about, even considering that it might have been poaching, and don't see a pattern.
  30. 2 points
    I think we see the effects more of firing RC than of 'hiring' BM as coach. I think playing for Carlyle sucked the fun out of the game. I wouldn't be surprised the team is just having fun which makes them play better.
  31. 2 points
    Yes. EDIT: whoops! meant to say No.
  32. 2 points
    I believe most of the coaching duties are put on the assistants. If anyone is making a case for a HC position next year, it's one of those guys. But there are still plenty of errors that are made. Our defense looks better but still needs a lot of work. The forwards let the other team skate into the zone without any effort. Sometimes you see glimpses of the team that can beat any team in the league but not for long. So far, without Bob actually coming out in favor of the assistants it's only speculation. But you have to wonder though, Eakins and which ever one of the assistants has the most impact on the team have to be the leading candidates for next year.
  33. 2 points
    What?! Who in their right mind would just do the team a solid? It's a business, he doesn't owe them anything. He's taken a beating for the team. LTIR is what he's going to do IF he decides to hang them up. He may still make a push in the off season, I think he may attempt it, and if it doesn't work out he will hang them up after that. We can't buy out an injured players contract. I've also been wondering though. The 2003 draft class is coming to the end of their playing careers. I would have to think it's in the back of Perry's and Getz mind, especially seeing the other guys on the team from the same class.
  34. 2 points
    Yeah, but as stated above there is no way he's retiring and giving up almost $20 mil. LTIR or a buyout would be more likely. LTIR doesn't provide the Ducks with a whole ton of cap relief or flexibility though. The Ducks can potentially LTIR him in the offseason while teams are allow to exceed the salary cap a 10% but need to be cap compliant by start the season from my understanding. Also, if he's on LTIR and the Ducks are operating above the salary cap, then the Ducks can not accrue any future cap savings. No doubt that Kesler has the drive and determination to try and get back, but after reading that SI article, I don't know how much longer his body will allow him to do that while also allowing him to have a good quality of life after hockey. It's just bonkers what he's gone through and is still seeming to go through.
  35. 2 points
    Shut it down, Kes. I give him credit for gutting through the injury and getting to 1,000, but at some point he's a detriment to himself and the team. I don't think rest will really be much of a factor ... at some point you're just a 35-year old with bad hips that can't skate. Father Time is undefeated for a reason.
  36. 2 points
    Nah, just starting physical therapy a few months early to be ready to start 2019-2020. Or, if you like conspiracy theories, its a ploy to make sure he doesn't get bought out in June. If he's determined by team doctors to be unfit to play now, how do they change that diagnosis in June when the buy-out window rolls around? It'd be darn near impossible. Whereas if he finished the rest of the season, they could say that he was still healthy enough to play at the end of the season so he'd be healthy enough to be bought out. Knowing what a warrior Kesler is, I think it's the first sentence I typed, but this conspiracy theory is not that far-fetched either.
  37. 2 points
    I will be shocked if we don't have a new coach before the draft (which is where trades are likely to go down). The next coach will also be chosen because he is on board with GMBM's vision for the team, not the other way around. We don't have to move a big contract for a player like Reinhart or Wennberg. Bettman says he's expecting an $83M cap for next season, which is a $3.5M rise in the current cap. And an Eaves buy-out plus trading Shore for a pick would net us $3.3M in additional cap space. That right there is enough for even Huberdeau to be acquired in a trade for just draft picks. Capfriendly has us estimated at $4.9M in cap space already next season, with no one up for a raise. So even if no moves are made at all, that means $8.4M in cap space to sign a backup goalie, two 5-7 D-men, and a depth forward. A trade plus and Eaves buy-out will only add to that. So we can definitely add a good player. I also don't know where you get that Monty was traded to help re-sign Silf. Monty was traded because GMBM didn't like his game and because he could get Guhle and a 1st rounder for him.
  38. 1 point
    I think 3 years is actually a pretty good timeline if things go well. With Getzlaf, as have started to see, he simply can’t carry the team like he used. It’s why getting a legit 2C is so crucial this offseason and hopefully a true 1C prospect soon. Take the burden off of him and help prolong his career. I’ve always seen him being a lifetime Duck. The expansion draft will be interesting since every notable prospect other than Comtois will be eligible. Perry and Getz will be off the books (the Ducks could always extend Getz after the ED) and Kesler may not even need to be protected. They’ll have more options than last time.
  39. 1 point
    Whoa hold on a second there! I think it's still too early to say. Wait till they hoist the cup in 3070, then the naysayers will say "they tanked soooooo hard and now they're being rewarded with their rebuilds coming to a close" Nice! 👊
  40. 1 point
    We didn't need a lottery pick in '07 to win a Cup but besides that as I've tried to say over and over, the only way to be a sure lock for a top 5 pick is to be worst and second worst in points at the end of the season. The Ducks were never that bad to be one of the two worst teams in the NHL because we actually have talent and one of the best goalies in the game. I fault Murray for not firing Carlyle sooner while the season still had a chance to maybe be salvaged, hell I fault him for hiring Carlyle period. My point in all this BTD is that the history of the current lottery has proven that better odds haven't meant anything for the 2nd or 3rd worst team going into the lottery because they have always in every instance of this current lottery system, fallen back. So history is more in our favor than the odds which are only slightly worse for us. Other teams still have games in hand on us and San Jose plays bad against Vegas so I anticipate them getting booted in the first round which increases the chances of our 2nd first round pick of being in the high 20's.
  41. 1 point
    Burke was notoriously bad at drafting, outside of the one time he got the sure-thing Sedin twins at picks 2 and 3. For the Ducks, outside of Bobby Ryan, whom he got at #2, he drafted exactly one guy who played meaningful minutes for the Ducks - Matt Beleskey. Now, he does get some credit for drafting Jake Gardiner and Justin Schultz, but we're talking three guys in four years who were even middle six/middle pairing players, plus Bobby Ryan. That's bad. Look at this page and compared Burke's tenure (2005 - 2008) to any four year stretch of Murray's tenure through 2014. Yes, 2015 is probably going to be a bust, but every other year has at least one significant contributor, and some years have four or five (Burke never had a year like 2011). https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/ANA/draft.html
  42. 1 point
    The problem that I see with our team 2-3 years from now is that we don't have a true franchise player, someone to build the team around. We have some good, very good and OK young players but I don't see anybody like Kariya or Selanne in coming. Since our GM does not likes blockbuster deals (aka Oleg Tverdovsky and Chad Kilger for Teemy Selanne in 1995), not interested in the best available free agents, like Brian Burke was, the only hope remains is to find a gem in the early 1st round pick.
  43. 1 point
    Kase was a top 10 European prospect in his draft.
  44. 1 point
    Good Question......I wonder too. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck
  45. 1 point
    The only certainties in life are death and taxes. A #1 pick isn't a guarantee (Nail Yakupov) of stardom. Look at Edmonton, with their plethora of #1 picks. All world McJesus has taken the franchise to the playoffs once (yes I know their GM was a joke). Play to win, and pray the draft ping pong ball gods give us a break.
  46. 1 point
    Per Sportsnet, with last night’s loss, the Kings are officially eliminated from playoff contention.
  47. 1 point
    So, all this talk of Dallas Eakins doing so many wonderful things down in SD and being the heir-apparent, etc. I'm not seeing it. The Gulls are doing all right, but are 32-20, and have been stuck in 3rd place despite reports of going on long tears. Is he really a magical coach, or is he just a good AHL coach that should stay there to help keep developing our youth?
  48. 1 point
    I’m sure that the league will frown upon that as obvious cap circumvention and wouldn’t allow it to happen.
  49. 1 point
    Keeping Shore makes zero sense to me. On LW he’s already behind Rakell, Jones and Ritchie, and we might even see one of Kase or Sprong moved to the left side if everyone stays and all are healthy. Plus, the only reason to keep him as a Center option is if you’re convinced Steel is not an NHL player. Nothing against Shore, but for $2.3M we would need him to be more than he is.
  50. 1 point
    Sean Shapiro‏Verified account @seanshapiro Andrew Cogliano had watch a game from home with his injury for the first time in his career. Said it was “Brutal. It sucks. I’ve been out once in my career, two games, to a stupid suspension in my opinion. But it’s not fun, especially this time of year.”
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