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  1. Perry came into the 2015/2016 season out of shape. It was well documented and our GM called him out for it. He floundered and struggled to score. He then got his act together mid season, then vanished come the playoffs. He has been batting .245 (baseball reference) since. Performance involves both the body and the mind. Why does he have some good moments? In large part in hockey if you are just mailing it in the opponents do not necessarily take note and then back off forechecking you, etc. So of course you are going to have to defend yourself from the normal plight of physicality that occurs in any game. Does not mean that his heart, head and body are into it and working in sync. He is not 40, he is not 25. But he is not the player he was and should be at his age. Next 12 months will decide if we have an albatross, a la Albert Pujols or it was a downturn that he reversed. No matter our offense has lost a step because of it, teams can defend us differently and couple that with RC's style of play and we are not an overwhelming offensive threat.
  2. Anyone know his contract situation? Is this a rental or does it create a cap issue next year if we need to resign coming off a career year and his last go around for a contract (at his age).......or did we just trade away a 2nd or 1st rounder for the Golden Knights next winger?
  3. Ritz you make good points. But............What?? So then everything is purely random and thus no players ever should get credit for being successful? "oh it could have turned out differently". So Brady just happens to not be in control (can you say that with a straight face that his actions did not lead to the result that was witnessed) and just by random chance he ended up 5-2 v. 2-5 and he was just AS GOOD (?) in those two losses as he was in his victories? Why do you watch championships then, to see random chance play out? Again I could careless (my own opinion) how many points per game Getzlaf has. I do not doubt or disparage his overall ability. I would be a fool which I hope I am not. But in measuring how the overall fan base feels, expectations, and why things may (have or will) play themselves as they have or will my stake in the ground is I think having that player, the one who a team can pin its belief in, and DOES, even if more often than not it may not pan out; I think the Ducks leadership is void of that player or players. To me it is how he responds when knocked down in critical situations. Along the lines of it is not if you get knocked down but it is if you get back up. He has wilted when it mattered the most. He loses his composure - it is on video. I am not making it up. BM ripped him a new one over it. BM changed the make up of the team over it. Several other players said the same thing but not directly as they would never breach his captaincy (which IS the problem). I never heard a single fan who attended any of those games sevens say "man Getzy gave it all he had. He was warrior. He was clutch". Yes has Getz has been a warrior. Sure. Absolutely which is why it is such a letdown because I expect it from him. But get him down 2 - 0, 3 - 0 and in a game seven and do not look to him to lead the team back from the brink. And one need not to make assists, or score goals to LEAD.........mind you. But other players (younger players) look to how their veteran leaders respond when down........they feed off of that vibe. One can lead from a hospital bed.
  4. As they say great players (mind you "great") make their own luck. Just because Getzlaf and Perry have been our two best players over the past 8 years does not make them GREAT players. They are exceptional NHL players no doubt. It is not that they lost it is how they looked losing and how they responded when going down 1, 2, 3 goals (in game sevens). NO ONE CAN DENY IT. If you were in the building any of the last 3 game seven losses every fan was saying the same thing "not again". Yes again. And did they raise their game and play balls to wall hockey and play like heroes? No. They rolled over. There was no one walking out of the Honda center at any one of those moments with their heads held high as to how their team PERFORMED and RESPONDED when things went against them. That is what is at the heart of this. Corsi, possession, bad bounces, bad luck........none of that matters. It was the look on the face of Getzlaf when after boom boom, one goal, two goals........did he have the look of someone who was telling his teammates "we will not be denied"........not even close. I am thankful we have Getzlaf on our team. But come time for a must win, must rise to the occasion moment (take it to another level)..........I personally have no belief he is the guy who is going to get it done. He is the guy who bats .310 during the regular season has some mild post season success but you do not want him at the plate with two outs NEEDING a double to tie the game. He is the guy who is not going to hit .350 in the playoffs (take it to another level). He has nothing on his resume to show he has that guy. There are other NHLers that I would rather go into (proverbial) war with. I also believe his personality permeates the team because he is the guy most everyone (including Perry) look to for leadership when times are tough. That IS HIS ROLE!! Spend a few minutes replaying those game sevens and watch his body language and demeanor. The team wilted. That is not on the coach, owner or GM. At those very few moments the only responsible party are the players and that is when GREAT players are born/made/stand up. We do not have that on this team - except maybe Kesler but Getzlaf's legacy overshadows Kesler's ability to lead. That is why were 0 - 4 in game sevens. Bad luck, the refs,..........excuses. What Neidermeyer and Selanne did in Game 5 at Detroit...........those are GREAT players making their own luck. I definitely have WANTED to see Getz or Perry do something similar when they have HAD the chance. But they have not done so.
  5. This is the same guy who dismissed his need for off season training so much so that the GM almost lost it, literally, citing this player's willful disregard for coming to camp out of shape (fall of 2015), was anything but stellar last year except for the tail end of the regular season? The same guy who was missing in the playoffs last year and thus has been MIA for almost a year? Perry has been sad faced (literally) since KB was signed and BM made a long term commitment to a natural born leader, BM kind of guy (i.e. KES) and his peer, KB, which disrupted the supposed leadership party, big men on campus, strangle hold his twin and thus by default his twin had on the team and the locker room. And we are speculating as to the who what when or whys??? The article above, about Perry's hockey upbringing, points out a key aspect (IMO), he is not a natural borne leader. A fighter in that he will fight back, yes. Resilient, yes. Talent yes. Leadership no. More so what does Perry do when rattled or ruffled: strike back. Not necessarily by defeating your opponent - the try that *$%* again and I will score on you and embarrass you. No, he retaliates by way of tit for tat retaliation. So how does Perry, the quite one, whom says little, introverted, retaliate when he may be dealing with both locker room issues and physical might be seeing it (punish people by not caring as much?). Mind you, this does not make him terrible but he is not playing like the asset he was 14-15 season or prior ever since BM publicly admonished players for their lack of commitment and attitude and shook up the roster with the intention of tweaking the team chemistry.
  6. So someone confirm for me: Ducks manage to get Rakell and Lindholm signed by some means or method. With Vatnen, Getz, Perry, Kesler, then Rakell and Lindholm (and even Fowler presumed resigned at market) and factoring in a few others the Ducks will continually have cap issues in the future absent relying upon a solid handful of AHLers making a substantial impact to take cap pressure off (e.g. making Fowler expendable, etc.). So IS NOW in the new normal for the Ducks as to cap issues? Are we now experiencing what we can expect to have looming over us not just in this situation but as things unfold over the next few years? BM has not had to manage (contracts and player movement) when bumped up against the cap year over year. That is a far more dicey assignment. Thus the success of the younger AHLers really drives the impact in the future or we will always be butting heads with the cap over the next four five years, correct?
  7. Someone said Getz and Perry are the ones dropping the gloves..........really? We sign Garbutt and we freak but Boll is one missed placed swing and he is too is player no one wants.........unless he is on our team? Hypocracy. "RC is our new coach, might as well embrace his style". So average is the new way to live, might as well be average. Nice mindset. Just five weeks ago our teams lack of success was hopped on our star players playing soft during the playoffs, not soft as in not fighting, but in just being mentally soft. Now we also do not want them being physically tough? No where in any of this do I see where the supposed NHL is out to out thug the Ducks has it hurt us in the standings the past couple of years. Nor has it been the culprit in winning a game seven at home. Dallas last year tried to be buffoons...........result? Who cares what happens in the daily grind of regular season......? The playoffs are the end all for the NHL. The NHL playoffs are what make the game what it is (admittedly a marginal top tier sport in the US). But what pretty much goes bye bye in the playoffs?? Who was Detroits bad a$$ thug all those years and where were they in terms of PIM when while winning SCs?
  8. But we would have then (at least) effectively given up Andersen and Fowler.......worthwhile?
  9. Not being anything close to in the know......... Is there a LH LW in the top three or four? If so any impact players? Then would an #8 plus another pick (e.g. a #30) get someone to trade down in exchange? Stupid idea?
  10. Understand that most any and all contracts between a professional athlete and the related franchise or even sponsor PROHIBIT the public expression of disparaging comments without approval in advance. Make excessive remarks about how great things are at your leisure, but disparaging comments about teammates, management or the organization and you are in violation of the agreement. Now sure players do often speak out but more often than not their negative comments if ANY are measured (very). Further organizations may choose or not choose to enforce transgressions occurring in violation of these contractual obligations but understand that is not done in any way in a public forum. It is very obvious once that contractual code is violated too often that someone will be leaving the organization. Even if there are no movement clauses, etc. Why? Because the player may be in breach and thus other areas of the contract then are either nullified or void or the player is essentially told to waive their rights of suffer the consequences of a breach. Yes players that want to know how to get out of dodge, so to speak, and will often use this as a route to be traded or otherwise. But in general those players are typically misfits of some kind and thus are not welcomed with open arms at other organizations. There is a lot of gamesmanship and "professionalism" behind the scenes. So when a organization says (publicly) that 'so and so was a consummate professional" this is not always (rarely) just referring to performance, practice habits, showing up or also relates to follow the terms of the deal through thick and thin. As such what a player says when asked questions of the media is rarely a full honest opinion when discussing difficult issues. When discussing victories, and championships, awards or accolades you will get the best answers. It is why reporters like to follow successful teams. Otherwise they are having to cut through the "bs". But even the media is smart about it and they know what a player can and cannot openly say and will and will not say. This too is why fans are often frustrated when an organization is not doing well and the media is challenging the players for in depth responses. Do you ever hear a post game interview question "so what did you think of the match ups you got tonight? How was the bench management in your opinion?" These questions are not asked as the answer will be vanilla and of no value as the player is not going to speak his mind for many reasons one of which is he may simply be obligated not to. Find quotes of any player in any situation when asked about a hiring of a new coach gravitating to "terrible", "what planet is our owner on", "I am calling my agent I want out". You might get a "well have to see how it works out. I will do my best to assist in any way possible and I am looking forward to the next season". This employer employee relationship carries over and exists in many situations outside of sports. Most corporate officers are contractually bound as well from making public comments that would harm or demean the brand of their organization even if truthful (in their own opinion). Do you think when Steven Jobs resigned and Apple named a new Chairman the Chief Financial Officer would come out and say "we just hired the biggest ego manic in the world. He is a grade a jerk". Or do you get "a bright mind, he will make us all perform at our best abilities. Great for the organization." None of this means Perry and Getzlaf were not being honest. It just means you really do not if what they said is how they truly feel.
  11. Scary!!! What happens if that hire flops.........what a mess the franchise will be in with the swinging door HC syndrome. Question for the guys (ladies) that know or have a good idea: Would last season's lackluster beginning have happened under RC? And if so would we have recovered? We know BM (was it) did not let him recover when we last offed him. The point being if the Ducks (again) start slow how will the months of November and December be around here?
  12. No doubt and your comparison is spot on. That said this is the US further this is So Cal and even softer hockey market than what are already sliver markets in major US cities (e.g. Boston). Thus hockey, at its best for most Ducks fans is the SC and nothing else. Just like few baseball fans (where MLB is the bomb in the US) have little interest in Baseball World Championships or Olympic baseball. In the mindset of the casual to hardened US hockey fan anything other than the SC is ho hum. Lets see what the TV rating are for the Worlds in the US compared to a Wednesday night NHL game?That is bolstered by the evidence that many hard core hockey fans abandon the SC playoffs once their team is eliminated (see ratings for SC in Canada as further similar evidence). Soccer on the other hand: yes Premier League Championships, the UEFA Cup all garner grand attention but still the World Cup dominates where "world hockey" events lose US attention (at least) I cannot speak for other countries (NHL v. those events). It is weird. I think it is in part because as you know the Premiere League championships have no playoff. But the other events are not only playoff oriented but also have the nationalistic interest you noted. Being full disclosure I wont be watching. I will just be hoping someone from the Ducks does not get injured and if they play well I will be expecting the same when back in Anaheim. For NHL players I think it is their REAL All Star game.....
  13. Teams are competing for the Stanley Cup and we applauding a player from this team for winning a slapped together international hockey competition (aren't a few of the best players in the world playing in the Stanley Cup playoffs)? Would Perry be Captain if all players in the world were literally available? Or was Perry destined for this greatness even if we advanced........what he going to bail for this international tourney anyway? If we advanced would anyone care about this tourney? But hey we also have the top 20 moments from our season to check out before the season is even over though?
  14. Do you think so? That being the case you are suggesting if we do not even find the playoffs BM is gone. Yes? If we find the playoff but lose in 5 games (not a painful game 7) in say the second round is he gone or does losing only count against you if it is a game 7 at home? If this is all leaning against BM how unfair might that be when the owner will not spend to the cap and you may lose great current and future talent on your blueline? Imagine if we do not find the playoffs in 2017 and BM again shakes up both the coaching the players a bit. All I can say is WOW and hold on as a new GM will bring another coach (likely) and before you know it we are a large washing machine mess. BM make it happen baby as I am not liking the long term outcome if it does not happen!!!
  15. So can we now change the title of the thread from "Feeling Angry" to "Unexcited"?