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Ovechkin To Break Gretzky's All-Time Goal Scoring Record?

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17 hours ago, duck123 said:

What's amazing is that Jaromir Jagr has 765 goals, which is only 129 goals less than Gretzky had.  If he had not taken away so many years from the NHL to play overseas, he might be able to catch Gretzky's record if he were to play this season. 

Still puzzled at his decision to play in the Europe and KHL. Must've been a lot of money and he's a known gambler.

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Wow, he has 8 goals in only the first 4 games of the season!  Yeah, I'd say he has a real good chance at breaking Gretzky's goal-scoring record.  Does not seem like he's slowing down at all.   In fact, maybe what happened with him is what happens with a lot of athletes as they age.  They end up eating much healthier and stretching/exercising much more the older they get, to stay at a high-level.  So, maybe he'll play even better this year than ever before.  Should be fun to see what happens.

https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-behind-the-numbers-nhl-record/c-291850200?tid=278387726

 

 

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On 10/13/2017 at 5:29 AM, duck123 said:

Wow, he has 8 goals in only the first 4 games of the season!  Yeah, I'd say he has a real good chance at breaking Gretzky's goal-scoring record.  Does not seem like he's slowing down at all.   In fact, maybe what happened with him is what happens with a lot of athletes as they age.  They end up eating much healthier and stretching/exercising much more the older they get, to stay at a high-level.  So, maybe he'll play even better this year than ever before.  Should be fun to see what happens.

https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-behind-the-numbers-nhl-record/c-291850200?tid=278387726

 

 

Ovechkin plays a far more rough and tumble game than Gretzy ever did.  Injury and age would be factors in breaking Gretzy’s goal record.  Personally, I think it’s a long shot.  Everything will need to go just right for him to have a chance.

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1 hour ago, Fowl said:

Ovechkin plays a far more rough and tumble game than Gretzy ever did.  Injury and age would be factors in breaking Gretzy’s goal record.  Personally, I think it’s a long shot.  Everything will need to go just right for him to have a chance.

Yeah, hopefully he does not get injured.  That's 9 goals now.  Scored another 1 last night.  If he has an awesome season this year, he could very well be on his way to breaking the record--especially if he follows it up with another awesome season next year.  We shall see.  

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2 hours ago, duck123 said:

Yeah, hopefully he does not get injured. That's 9 goals now. Scored another 1 last night.  If he has an awesome season this year, he could very well be on his way to breaking the record--especially if he follows it up with another awesome season next year.  We shall see.  

Ugh. Why. Did you have to mention that. I thought the Ducks, as a team, had that many goals. I looked up it up. It's not quite that bad but not much better at 11. 

That's depressing. When a single player is almost out scoring a team. 

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On ‎10‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 6:19 PM, poum said:

Ugh. Why. Did you have to mention that. I thought the Ducks, as a team, had that many goals. I looked up it up. It's not quite that bad but not much better at 11. 

That's depressing. When a single player is almost out scoring a team. 

Lol.  Good point.  :)

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When I created this thread 4 years ago, Alex Ovechkin had 414 goals, and was 481 goals away from breaking Gretzky's goal-scoring record.  Four seasons later, he now has 607 goals!  So, in the 4 seasons since this thread was made, Ovechkin has scored 185 goals--unreal!  Just finished another season with around 50 goals.  (49, to be exact.)  And he is now only 288 goals from breaking Wayne Gretzky's record.  No, really!  He is only 288 goals away from breaking Wayne Gretzky's all-time goal scoring record!  Guys, I truly believe he is going to break this record!  Is there anybody here who truly believes he cannot play until he is 40 years old?  Of course not.  Check this out.  This is pretty amazing.  He will be 33 years old when the next season starts.  So, let's just say he retires after 8 more seasons, when he is 40 years old.  Is there anybody here who does not believe Ovechkin can score at least 36 goals for the next 8 seasons?  I doubt it.  Well, what is 36 multiplied by 8?  288!  Crazy, huh!  If Ovechkin only scores 36 goals for the next 8 seasons, he breaks Gretzky's record!  And if, for whatever reason, he needs a few more seasons past the age of 40 to break the record, there is no reason to believe he cannot still be a productive player in this league past the age of 40.  Also, to put it into perspective, Teemu Selanne came back to the Ducks at age 35 and ended up scoring a total of 232 goals in 9 seasons, including 40 goals at age 35 and 48 goals at age 36!  I think this is going to happen!  Let's keep in mind that Ovechkin has averaged 50 goals in 3 of the last 4 seasons.  He is not showing any signs of slowing down.  I would not be surprised if he has at least 2 more seasons in him, if not more, where he scores at least 50 goals.  I also believe he will be the first player in NHL history to reach 900 goals in his career!  It's always fun to see how much closer he is to breaking Gretzky's record after the regular season has ended.  When I first made this thread 4 years ago, who could have imagined that he would average 50 goals in 3 of the next 4 seasons.  Pretty cool!  I am really hoping he stays healthy these next 8 seasons.  If so, will be very cool to see somebody break a goal scoring record.  Maybe I'll even try and be there in person when he does it.  Ok, well, will be interesting to see how much closer Ovechkin is to breaking the goal scoring record a year from today.  Until then...GO DUCKS! :)

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Well a lot would have to happen to make it possible. It's unlikely but not impossible I guess. He shows no signs of slowing down but the way he plays is taxing on the body. Who knows when the dropoff comes? 

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Hope Ovi could do it. Gretzky was great but feel like Mario was better. 

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On 10/14/2017 at 3:19 PM, poum said:

Ugh. Why. Did you have to mention that. I thought the Ducks, as a team, had that many goals. I looked up it up. It's not quite that bad but not much better at 11. 

That's depressing. When a single player is almost out scoring a team. 

Thanks for bumping this thread, Duck123. I got to see the above post again. Those were some dark days early in the season. And somehow the team still finishes with home ice for the playoffs! Hahahahaha

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2 hours ago, poum said:

Thanks for bumping this thread, Duck123. I got to see the above post again. Those were some dark days early in the season. And somehow the team still finishes with home ice for the playoffs! Hahahahaha

Ha, awesome way to finish the season.  On to the quest for the Cup! GO DUCKS!

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I think he will have some fall off. He'll need a couple more 45~50 goal seasons so that he can get it done with 25~35 his last three or four seasons. Not impossible, but not yet guaranteed.

 

P.s. is that regular season only or regular season and playoffs combined?

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7 hours ago, RobD360 said:

Hope Ovi could do it. Gretzky was great but feel like Mario was better. 

Mario was better.

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I think he'll do it! Legs seem to go before hands...in his late 30s/early 40s he could become a power play specialist...and wouldn't be surprised to see him get 10 - 20 goals in those years.

Let's just say he plays 10 more seasons...till he's 42...would this be impossible you think?

Age 33: 50

Age 34: 45

Age 35: 43

Age 36: 36

Age 37: 30

Age 38: 25

Age 39: 20

Age 40: 15

Age 41: 15

Age 42: 10

Total: 896...I dunno...I don't think it's impossible!

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6 hours ago, Thom-74 said:

Mario was better.

Yep.  Gretzky has to get credit for the ridiculous numbers he put up, and I hate to ding Lemieux for the unfortunate health problems he had, but in overall production Gretzky wins.  That said, Gretzky came along and took advantage to the full extent of an era where scoring was at an all-time high and he figured out how to beat goalies.  It wasn't gimmicky by any stretch, and he deserves complete credit, but I don't think he would have been nearly as dominant in today's game.

Lemieux, on the other hand, could do things with his size and strength and hands that no other human could do.  On sheer hockey talent, I think Lemieux wins.

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16 hours ago, gorbachav5 said:

Yep.  Gretzky has to get credit for the ridiculous numbers he put up, and I hate to ding Lemieux for the unfortunate health problems he had, but in overall production Gretzky wins.  That said, Gretzky came along and took advantage to the full extent of an era where scoring was at an all-time high and he figured out how to beat goalies.  It wasn't gimmicky by any stretch, and he deserves complete credit, but I don't think he would have been nearly as dominant in today's game.

Lemieux, on the other hand, could do things with his size and strength and hands that no other human could do.  On sheer hockey talent, I think Lemieux wins.

AGREE - not even close. Ovi will have some physical breakdowns as he gets older. He REALLLY taxes his body !!!

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I would really love for Ovi to break the record but I don't think it happens.

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On 8/10/2017 at 2:26 PM, duck123 said:

What's amazing is that Jaromir Jagr has 765 goals, which is only 129 goals less than Gretzky had.  If he had not taken away so many years from the NHL to play overseas, he might be able to catch Gretzky's record if he were to play this season. 

True IF he had not choose the Euro League path maybe he would be close to the Great One's Record.

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6 hours ago, MooseDuck said:

True IF he had not choose the Euro League path maybe he would be close to the Great One's Record.

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Very true! Same could be said about Ovi...as far as what if there wasn't a half season in 2013...AND what if there was a 2004-05 season? Would THAT have been his rookie year? I'm guessing so. You could almost make the case he'd have another 70 goals to his at this point.

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On ‎4‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 6:44 PM, Thom-74 said:

I think he will have some fall off. He'll need a couple more 45~50 goal seasons so that he can get it done with 25~35 his last three or four seasons. Not impossible, but not yet guaranteed.

 

P.s. is that regular season only or regular season and playoffs combined?

I'm just claiming I think there is a good chance Ovi will beat Gretzky's all-time regular season goal scoring record--separate from playoffs.  

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14 hours ago, duck123 said:

Funny. I was saying over 4 years ago, when I wrote this thread, that I think Ovechkin would break Gretzky's all-time goal scoring record.  Check out this article: 

https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-has-chance-to-catch-wayne-gretzky/c-303113638

The way he's producing this year it is indeed very promising that he can beat the record. Just stay on a good team when the deal runs out in two years, most likely remain in WSH, and he can average 30 goals a year for 5 seasons, then it's all about luck. You don't beat such a record without a lot of luck.

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