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42 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:

Tony DeAngelo is on waivers. Talk about plummeting from grace. Just say screw it and invite him to the party here in Anaheim lol

He sounds like a bad locker room guy, but he’s super talented and would be an upgrade over Shattenkirk. Too bad we don’t have the cap space and are already at the 50-contract limit. Maybe Bob can make a panic trade to make room for him.

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2 hours ago, Sexlaf15 said:

Sucks he’s such a PoS. We definitely could use him. 
 

i would love if we could trade for Victor Mete. But Murray is probably gonna trade for Jack Johnson because of intangibles 

Yeah, exactly. We are probably better off without him....big picture.

But, I don't know much about Mete. Is he pretty good? Sam Bennett also aasking for a trade....is this the normal and i just never noticed it????? So many players asking for trades?????? Why does everyone want out of Canada??? ...Columbus I understand lol

EDIT: we are 100% better without him regardless. All picture. Just went into a little dive of his locker room issues etc.... yeeesh

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36 minutes ago, Jasoaks said:

Yeah, exactly. We are probably better off without him....big picture.

But, I don't know much about Mete. Is he pretty good? Sam Bennett also aasking for a trade....is this the normal and i just never noticed it????? So many players asking for trades?????? Why does everyone want out of Canada??? ...Columbus I understand lol

EDIT: we are 100% better without him regardless. All picture. Just went into a little dive of his locker room issues etc.... yeeesh

Yeah I didn’t realize just how bad Deangelos issues were. 
Was suspended TWICE for using slurs at teammates in juniors 

once for abuse of an official 

Multiple benchings for behavior 

and the reason he’s on waivers is he got into an altercation with Georgiev. 
As much as I’d love the player here, his person is too bad. 
 

Mete is like a smaller Fowler (which might bother some posters here) he’s a smooth skater who likes to carry the puck, may not light it up points wise, but he drives offense and can play a good game in his own zone. He’s a LHD, but I think he could slot in next to someone like Hutton, maybe even Lindholm and probably find lots of success if he can play on his off side. 
 

I’m a sucker for young guys analytical darlings that team don’t seem to want. 
Vince Dunn

Victor Mete 

Julius Honka (who we should have claimed on waivers) 

As for Bennett, he’s still young, but he’s not very good offensively and has a terrible shot. Maybe a few years ago I would have been more excited,  but he’s never gotten back to that form we saw a few years ago. I’d pass, but I wouldn’t be upset if we moved some cap or something and got him back. 

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2 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:

Yeah I didn’t realize just how bad Deangelos issues were. 
Was suspended TWICE for using slurs at teammates in juniors 

once for abuse of an official 

Multiple benchings for behavior 

and the reason he’s on waivers is he got into an altercation with Georgiev. 
As much as I’d love the player here, his person is too bad. 

 

Mete is like a smaller Fowler (which might bother some posters here) he’s a smooth skater who likes to carry the puck, may not light it up points wise, but he drives offense and can play a good game in his own zone. He’s a LHD, but I think he could slot in next to someone like Hutton, maybe even Lindholm and probably find lots of success if he can play on his off side. 
 

I’m a sucker for young guys analytical darlings that team don’t seem to want. 
Vince Dunn

Victor Mete 

Julius Honka (who we should have claimed on waivers) 

As for Bennett, he’s still young, but he’s not very good offensively and has a terrible shot. Maybe a few years ago I would have been more excited,  but he’s never gotten back to that form we saw a few years ago. I’d pass, but I wouldn’t be upset if we moved some cap or something and got him back. 

Hard no on DeAngelo given the bolded even if we had the space to make it work. Last thing we need is John Gibson hating the defense in front of him more than he already does.

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I watched the Rangers home opener and couldn't help but notice during the ceremony how everyone was circling around the Rangers logo at centre ice in the same direction but everyone introduced after DeAngelo went to go line up at the opposite end of the circle instead of continuing beside him. It was very obvious and awkward. I didn't even know about the Georgiev thing.

Adding an over the top toxic element to our already lethargic locker room might break Gibson. We've seen him attack opponents before, how long until he starts slashing at the legs of his own defenders for being trash?

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2 hours ago, Jasoaks said:

Yeah, exactly. We are probably better off without him....big picture.

But, I don't know much about Mete. Is he pretty good? Sam Bennett also aasking for a trade....is this the normal and i just never noticed it????? So many players asking for trades?????? Why does everyone want out of Canada??? ...Columbus I understand lol

EDIT: we are 100% better without him regardless. All picture. Just went into a little dive of his locker room issues etc.... yeeesh

oh...yaay...this was my 4000th post!!...... ugh, i wish it wasnt a post about something so terrible lol i should have waited and posted something else first haha 🎉

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Like, I'm not against the idea that people can get 2nd chances and be better...but...they have to want to do that and also take accountability over what they've already done and show signs/effort of changing. DeAngelo must be really really really hurting inside and insecure about something deep down...it's really sad.

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19 minutes ago, Jasoaks said:

Like, I'm not against the idea that people can get 2nd chances and be better...but...they have to want to do that and also take accountability over what they've already done and show signs/effort of changing. DeAngelo must be really really really hurting inside and insecure about something deep down...it's really sad.

Agree, but the more I read about him the worse it looks. Seems like DeAngelo has been an a****** since juniors and has never had to face real accountability. What's pretty wild is that he was drafted 19th overall in 2014 by Tampa and then Yzerman traded him two years later for a 2nd round pick. This was after he put up 43 points in his first full AHL season. IMO, a GM doesn't do that unless there is a serious issue.

Now he's struggling on-ice and he's getting more press for things he's doing off of it. If he accepts responsibility and learns from it then I think he'll be able to continue his NHL career. If not then he can go kick rocks and learn Russian playing overseas or something.

 

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1 hour ago, Sexlaf15 said:

just some more DeAngelo bs

Rumours saying he stole Miller's puck after his first NHL goal

Keep this clown the hell away from Anaheim

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2 minutes ago, PetrSykora said:

Rumours saying he stole Miller's puck after his first NHL goal

Keep this clown the hell away from Anaheim

Disgusting man. 

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1 hour ago, PetrSykora said:

Rumours saying he stole Miller's puck after his first NHL goal

Keep this clown the hell away from Anaheim

LoL that is a you know what move but it is kinda of funny. If he could figure out how to use that energy to get under the other teams skin, you have another Sean’s Avery on your hands.

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5 hours ago, ike-1 said:

LoL that is a you know what move but it is kinda of funny. If he could figure out how to use that energy to get under the other teams skin, you have another Sean’s Avery on your hands.

Yes, and Sean Avery was a complete tool who also had no business in the NHL.  I hope DeAngelo figures out how to be a worthwhile human being.  

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DeAngelo clears waivers.

Man, how big of a *ick do you have to be for you to be passed over by 30 teams after scoring 53 points in 68 game last season?!?!

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On 1/31/2021 at 8:49 PM, Sexlaf15 said:

Disgusting man. 

Personally it would be....Bad PR for   the Ducks Getting him.

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Eric Stephens just confirmed a short time ago via the Athletic that the Ducks are showing interest in DeAngelo.

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combat locker room poison with locker room poison.  poor strategy.  and BM has all the evidence in the world that he and everyone in the current admin for the team cannot rehabilitate players in any kind of reliable manner.  

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47 minutes ago, dtsdlaw said:

Eric Stephens just confirmed a short time ago via the Athletic that the Ducks are showing interest in DeAngelo.

I guess Bob McKenzie called it "kick[ing] the tires."  It's Bob Murray's job to get details.  Hopefully he noticed that the tires were covered in poisonous spikes before he kicked too hard.  If it goes further than that and we start hearing rumors that they're working on a deal, then I'll start building up my rage.  But for now, I'm comfortable with Murray just doing due diligence.

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2 hours ago, gorbachav5 said:

I guess Bob McKenzie called it "kick[ing] the tires."  It's Bob Murray's job to get details.  Hopefully he noticed that the tires were covered in poisonous spikes before he kicked too hard.  If it goes further than that and we start hearing rumors that they're working on a deal, then I'll start building up my rage.  But for now, I'm comfortable with Murray just doing due diligence.

Given what's already public, why in the world would GMBM even "kick the tires" if he wasn't genuinely interested in acquiring DeAngelo? It's not like this is one of those kept-in-the-locker room mysteries as to why DeAngelo has been banished from the Rangers. In this case, I betcha "kick the tires" probably means GMBM is trying to find out how much salary the Rangers are willing to retain and what else they'd thrown in as a sweetener to take DeAngelo off their hands.

Unlike the Ducks, the Rags really don't have much in the way of veteran leadership, and he probably thinks that a more veteran locker room could get DeAngelo back in line. It could also be a low risk move if the price is right. If it's a total bust, DeAngelo could be bought out for 1/3 of his remaining contract in June, so $1.766M would be the buyout cost and the cap hit would be very manageable. Those numbers are even smaller if the Rags retain salary (which they would need to for the Ducks to make the cap hit work this season). And let's say the Rangers sweeten a trade offer with a pick.... Do I want him to get DeAngelo? No, hard pass. He sounds like a giant prick. But if GMBM does get him, it could be a shrewd gamble that pays off big time.

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10 minutes ago, dtsdlaw said:

Given what's already public, why in the world would GMBM even "kick the tires" if he wasn't genuinely interested in acquiring DeAngelo? It's not like this is one of those kept-in-the-locker room mysteries as to why DeAngelo has been banished from the Rangers. In this case, I betcha "kick the tires" probably means GMBM is trying to find out how much salary the Rangers are willing to retain and what else they'd thrown in as a sweetener to take DeAngelo off their hands.

Unlike the Ducks, the Rags really don't have much in the way of veteran leadership, and he probably thinks that a more veteran locker room could get DeAngelo back in line. It could also be a low risk move if the price is right. If it's a total bust, DeAngelo could be bought out for 1/3 of his remaining contract in June, so $1.766M would be the buyout cost and the cap hit would be very manageable. Those numbers are even smaller if the Rags retain salary (which they would need to for the Ducks to make the cap hit work this season). And let's say the Rangers sweeten a trade offer with a pick.... Do I want him to get DeAngelo? No, hard pass. He sounds like a giant prick. But if GMBM does get him, it could be a shrewd gamble that pays off big time.

Heck, if Murray trades, say, Henrique for DeAngelo's contract and the Rangers 1st round pick and then tells DeAngelo he's never seeing the ice, I'm fine with that.  But I don't know how the NHLPA would handle that situation.  Even four months of that guy in the locker room seems excessive if he can't be bought out until June.

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1 hour ago, dtsdlaw said:

Given what's already public, why in the world would GMBM even "kick the tires" if he wasn't genuinely interested in acquiring DeAngelo? It's not like this is one of those kept-in-the-locker room mysteries as to why DeAngelo has been banished from the Rangers. In this case, I betcha "kick the tires" probably means GMBM is trying to find out how much salary the Rangers are willing to retain and what else they'd thrown in as a sweetener to take DeAngelo off their hands.

Unlike the Ducks, the Rags really don't have much in the way of veteran leadership, and he probably thinks that a more veteran locker room could get DeAngelo back in line. It could also be a low risk move if the price is right. If it's a total bust, DeAngelo could be bought out for 1/3 of his remaining contract in June, so $1.766M would be the buyout cost and the cap hit would be very manageable. Those numbers are even smaller if the Rags retain salary (which they would need to for the Ducks to make the cap hit work this season). And let's say the Rangers sweeten a trade offer with a pick.... Do I want him to get DeAngelo? No, hard pass. He sounds like a giant prick. But if GMBM does get him, it could be a shrewd gamble that pays off big time.

am i right in thinking that if Deangelo got injured before they decided to buy out his contract, that they'd be forced to pay the full price of the contract, and not the 1/3rd?  i think i remember that being part of the player agreement and buyouts.  you know the rangers would include a clause in the trade that they'd retain a percentage of the 1/3rd buyout cost, but not if he got injured before that option was exercised.  i may be making this too complicated - it might be that the standard for these kinds of trades is that even if the home team retains salary, they never promise to pay anything when it comes to buyouts.

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7 minutes ago, Fisix said:

am i right in thinking that if Deangelo got injured before they decided to buy out his contract, that they'd be forced to pay the full price of the contract, and not the 1/3rd?  i think i remember that being part of the player agreement and buyouts.  you know the rangers would include a clause in the trade that they'd retain a percentage of the 1/3rd buyout cost, but not if he got injured before that option was exercised.  i may be making this too complicated - it might be that the standard for these kinds of trades is that even if the home team retains salary, they never promise to pay anything when it comes to buyouts.

I think the rule is that you can't buy out an injured player without their permission. Or maybe that was the old rule and it has since been changed. Not sure. I'd be pretty shocked if they were allowed to make nuanced agreements to retain salary in certain circumstances and not in others though. That would be a huge loophole for cap circumvention.

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6 hours ago, dtsdlaw said:

Eric Stephens just confirmed a short time ago via the Athletic that the Ducks are showing interest in DeAngelo.

Would be Unwise for the Ducks to get DeAngelo.

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14 hours ago, gorbachav5 said:

I guess Bob McKenzie called it "kick[ing] the tires."  It's Bob Murray's job to get details.  Hopefully he noticed that the tires were covered in poisonous spikes before he kicked too hard.  If it goes further than that and we start hearing rumors that they're working on a deal, then I'll start building up my rage.  But for now, I'm comfortable with Murray just doing due diligence.

Given the circumstances ADA might be a bargain. We all know how much GMBM likes his bargains and reclamation projects. Color me unsurprised if he ends up in Anaheim. We can only hope that should it happen, the rangers add a sweetener or retain a chunk of money). I don't think even BM would be that crazy to make a straight up trade for him. 

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One more thought on DeAngelo - both Shattenkirk and Lettieri shared a locker room with him in 2017-18 and 2018-19, and I would be extremely surprised if GMBM's due diligence didn't include talking to those two guys about ADA's antics and reputation and whether he could co-exist in the Ducks locker room. If he does come here, it will likely be because one or both guys vouched for him.

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3 hours ago, DucksFan_08 said:

Given the circumstances ADA might be a bargain. We all know how much GMBM likes his bargains and reclamation projects. Color me unsurprised if he ends up in Anaheim. We can only hope that should it happen, the rangers add a sweetener or retain a chunk of money). I don't think even BM would be that crazy to make a straight up trade for him. 

It doesn't really matter what kind of sweetener or advantageous deal Murray gets for DeAngelo.  If he can trade for his contract without actually ever letting him see the inside of a hockey rink in Southern California, fine.  I'm down.  But if Murray is acquiring him to actually play for the team, it's going to be very difficult for me to justify my fandom.  Fighting your own teammates, abusing officials, violating the AHL's diversity policy - it doesn't seem like he's interested in growing as a person.  No thank you.

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2 hours ago, gorbachav5 said:

It doesn't really matter what kind of sweetener or advantageous deal Murray gets for DeAngelo.  If he can trade for his contract without actually ever letting him see the inside of a hockey rink in Southern California, fine.  I'm down.  But if Murray is acquiring him to actually play for the team, it's going to be very difficult for me to justify my fandom.  Fighting your own teammates, abusing officials, violating the AHL's diversity policy - it doesn't seem like he's interested in growing as a person.  No thank you.

If he were put on the active roster I would stop watching the Ducks until he's gone. Simple as that really. The guy is a cancer.

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LOL. Laine benched tonight with 6 1/2 minutes left in the 2nd period. Zero shifts in the 3rd.

So I’m thinking our 1st + Rico + Lundestrom gets it done. Welcome to Anaheim, Patrik!

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1 hour ago, dtsdlaw said:

LOL. Laine benched tonight with 6 1/2 minutes left in the 2nd period. Zero shifts in the 3rd.

So I’m thinking our 1st + Rico + Lundestrom gets it done. Welcome to Anaheim, Patrik!

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what the fu....haha I mean, did you see him on the ice for his first game...that guy has ZERO interest being in Columbus lol

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i mean... do we want a guy like that?  if he doesn't want to play, just after a trade?  wouldn't we be trading a bunch of good stuff for a risk that he'd be crap here until we traded him again?  no thanks.

he's the one getting paid, and so he's also the one who has to put more effort into making the team and coach happy... certainly more than 4 games.

this is getting silly.  i know Torts has a rep, but either Torts is ridiculous in the locker room (we'd hear more from other players if that was the case, i think), or these players are entitled Dehydrated Donkey Dungs who aren't going to be happy until they're traded to Boston or Wash or whichever frontrunner team.  if that's the new norm, i'm not sure why half the teams would stay in the league.  the Ducks would be done, maybe all the CA teams would be done, unless there was a sports team tax break of some kind (which would pretty weaksauce).  

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