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16 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:

It's definitely funny but I think that the trade makes sense for both teams. Lucic can potentially make a bigger impact playing a third line role on a better Calgary team while Neal (who still has much more offensive upside than Lucic) has a chance to find his game playing with McJesus and allowing the Oilers to play Draisaitl away from him. A change of scenery was the only option, but oh man, are those contracts awful.

 Chiarelli was hilarious, I'm gonna miss the guy. He did wonders for the Edmonton Oilers in the worse kinda way. Unfortunately, I do agree with you. The change of scenery will work out in the Oilers favor. For whatever reason Neal was ass in Calgary. Being paired with McJ or Draistal will probably up his game back to a 30g scorer.  Calgary gets screwed. No idea why they did this. To protect Johnny ShortSh*t? Good luck with that.

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And add in the goalie swap...where the Oilers really made the mistake here...Talbot could still bounce back and be solid in Calgary...

So, I'd say overall...both teams lost lol

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What the heck is Toronto doing taking back Clarkson’s contract and doing Vegas a huge favor?

Vegas will soon be set to re-sign Gusev and then I think it’ll be game over in the West. They are going to be so nasty.

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This move actually provides Toronto with enough capspace to sign Marner after the season starts. With horton & clarkson on LTIR they can exceed the cap by 10.5mil.

I have nothing against toronto but if they don't win The Cup next season I'm gonna cry from laughing. So far I'm actually impressed by dubas (apart from overpaying for matthews) and if he can pull of the Marner contract in this fashion kudos to him. But what are they going to do when clarkson & horton become UFA's next season? On top of that they have no D man under contract apart from reilly. And Barrie won't sign a 5mil deal.

If they win The Cup it's all worth it but if not they're gonna be in cap hell without a Cup.

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6 hours ago, DucksFan_08 said:

This move actually provides Toronto with enough capspace to sign Marner after the season starts. With horton & clarkson on LTIR they can exceed the cap by 10.5mil.

I have nothing against toronto but if they don't win The Cup next season I'm gonna cry from laughing. So far I'm actually impressed by dubas (apart from overpaying for matthews) and if he can pull of the Marner contract in this fashion kudos to him. But what are they going to do when clarkson & horton become UFA's next season? On top of that they have no D man under contract apart from reilly. And Barrie won't sign a 5mil deal.

If they win The Cup it's all worth it but if not they're gonna be in cap hell without a Cup.

Their defense is still a work in progress, which could submarine their Cup chances.  As you mentioned, Reilly is the only guy they have signed beyond this season, with Ceci ($4.5M), Muzzin ($4M) and Barrie ($2.75M due to retained salary by Colorado) all pending UFAs. But if I were a betting man, I'd put money on them moving on from Ceci next season and then eventually trading Nylander for a top-4 defender. That would give them plenty of cap space to fill other holes. Toronto front-loaded Nylander's contract, seemingly with the expectation that they would eventually trade him after year one - i.e. Toronto already paid him $12M in the first year of his contract and another $8.3M in signing bonus on July 1, 2019, so he's only due another $700K in salary for the rest of this season and $6M for the next four seasons after that. That's $21M/$45M that Toronto has already paid him in the first 12 months. And because Toronto has paid so much of that contract up front, it's going to be easier to move it to create cap space. I also think the writing's on the wall for Nylander after they re-signed Kapanen. Marner slides in as the #1 RW and Kapenen as the #2 RW, which probably puts Nylander's $6.92M cap hit on a plane to another city. Now it's just a matter of when.

All that said, I think 2020-21 is going to be Toronto's year. Too many pieces still to shuffle in 2019-2020. Next year should be rock solid for them.

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10 hours ago, DucksFan_08 said:

This move actually provides Toronto with enough capspace to sign Marner after the season starts. With horton & clarkson on LTIR they can exceed the cap by 10.5mil.

I have nothing against toronto but if they don't win The Cup next season I'm gonna cry from laughing. So far I'm actually impressed by dubas (apart from overpaying for matthews) and if he can pull of the Marner contract in this fashion kudos to him. But what are they going to do when clarkson & horton become UFA's next season? On top of that they have no D man under contract apart from reilly. And Barrie won't sign a 5mil deal.

If they win The Cup it's all worth it but if not they're gonna be in cap hell without a Cup.

Oh man, if they don’t win the Cup next year lol. Toronto certainly has the talent to go deep next year but they also helped out a team that they could very well meet if they get to the Final. To me, Vegas was already the best team in the West and now they have the ability to get even better. Sign me up for that series though.

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17 hours ago, dtsdlaw said:

Their defense is still a work in progress, which could submarine their Cup chances.  As you mentioned, Reilly is the only guy they have signed beyond this season, with Ceci ($4.5M), Muzzin ($4M) and Barrie ($2.75M due to retained salary by Colorado) all pending UFAs. But if I were a betting man, I'd put money on them moving on from Ceci next season and then eventually trading Nylander for a top-4 defender. That would give them plenty of cap space to fill other holes. Toronto front-loaded Nylander's contract, seemingly with the expectation that they would eventually trade him after year one - i.e. Toronto already paid him $12M in the first year of his contract and another $8.3M in signing bonus on July 1, 2019, so he's only due another $700K in salary for the rest of this season and $6M for the next four seasons after that. That's $21M/$45M that Toronto has already paid him in the first 12 months. And because Toronto has paid so much of that contract up front, it's going to be easier to move it to create cap space. I also think the writing's on the wall for Nylander after they re-signed Kapanen. Marner slides in as the #1 RW and Kapenen as the #2 RW, which probably puts Nylander's $6.92M cap hit on a plane to another city. Now it's just a matter of when.

All that said, I think 2020-21 is going to be Toronto's year. Too many pieces still to shuffle in 2019-2020. Next year should be rock solid for them.

Their D is pretty solid with Reilly, Muzzin and Barrie IMO. That's why I believe it should happen this season. And I'm sure leafs fans are praying Reilly or Muzzin won't get hurt in The Playoffs. That team is an offensive juggernaut but when you meet a good defensive team (Boston) you may be watching another early exit.

If Muzzin and Barrie are looking for raises next season and Barrie certainly will they're toast.
Let's say Marner signs for 9 mil (I'd be surprised if it's only that but just for fun) and Barrie is looking for 7 mil (same with Marner, he's probably looking for more depending on what kind of season he has) they pay 45 mil for 5 players. Add Freddie and Reilly's deals and that's 55 mil for 7 guys. Imagine the cap rising to 85 mil that leaves 30 mil for 16 players (23 man roster). That's an average of 1.88 mil per player.

And that LTIR trick won't work anymore when clarkson and horton become UFA's unless they take on some other LTIR contracts.

Not saying they can't ice a competitive team after the upcoming season but somebody will have to go. My money is also on Nylander.

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How good would this Forward line be...Zucker-Getzlaf-Laline. Defence Corp consist of Risto-Faulk....Goaltender is John Gibson.

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What do you guys think Gibson's next contract will be? Did you guys see the contacts goalies have gotten lately? Sure he hasn't won a vezina yet but I would have to think it's going to be 7 + at this point. 

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Now that you can add Fenton to the list of bad GM’s fired, Murray has fewer ones to hide behind lol

42 minutes ago, g20topdogg said:

What do you guys think Gibson's next contract will be? Did you guys see the contacts goalies have gotten lately? Sure he hasn't won a vezina yet but I would have to think it's going to be 7 + at this point. 

I doubt that at age 34, with the style he plays that he’ll be demanding a pay increase. Let’s worry about the next 8 seasons first lol. Although, I’d take his contract over Vasilevskiy’s in a heartbeat right now.

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2 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:

Now that you can add Fenton to the list of bad GM’s fired, Murray has fewer ones to hide behind lol

I doubt that at age 34, with the style he plays that he’ll be demanding a pay increase. Let’s worry about the next 8 seasons first lol. Although, I’d take his contract over Vasilevskiy’s in a heartbeat right now.

Lol I forgot he signed! I thought he was still on the bridge contact never mind. 🤭

Oh yeah, then a total steal compared to some of these other guys. 

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On 7/30/2019 at 2:14 PM, BombaysTripleDeke said:

Now that you can add Fenton to the list of bad GM’s fired, Murray has fewer ones to hide behind lol

I doubt that at age 34, with the style he plays that he’ll be demanding a pay increase. Let’s worry about the next 8 seasons first lol. Although, I’d take his contract over Vasilevskiy’s in a heartbeat right now.

What the hell was that thing?! It makes no sense. Have we not learned to not sign goalies for life? It sucks for them, it's a fickle position. But 8 years at at $9.5M is crazy talk.

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8 hours ago, poum said:

What the hell was that thing?! It makes no sense. Have we not learned to not sign goalies for life? It sucks for them, it's a fickle position. But 8 years at at $9.5M is crazy talk.

Yeah. That’s just the going rate for a Vezina winning goaltender. Gibson getting robbed of a nomination, let alone the award saved the Ducks from paying him 9+ mil per year. The Bobrovsky contract is exponentially worse lol

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Gibson honestly has one of the best contracts in hockey. It's mind boggling how he's not even the third highest paid player on our team.

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On 8/5/2019 at 6:16 PM, PetrSykora said:

Gibson honestly has one of the best contracts in hockey. It's mind boggling how he's not even the third highest paid player on our team.

It helps that Lindholm and Rakell were essentially signed for the same price as a donkey ride down the Grand Canyon.

 

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Anyone else getting more and more worried as every calendar day passes without Phaneuf signing elsewhere. The Ducks only have 6 defensemen (per the Ducks official site) and no 7th.

Certainly a kid could swoop in during Camp. Larsson may have a case for a full time spot while Guhl/Holzer slides to 7th.

It's GMformelyHCBM that we're talking about. One half of the defense could well be Holzer, MDZ, and Phanuef.

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On 8/5/2019 at 8:26 AM, gorbachav5 said:

Hey, it's better than the Bobrovsky deal.

Whoa! I don't know if I actually looked at that contract before. That is a true nightmare. The last two years of the contract when it hits NTC status, salary base is still roughly $6M at the age of 36.

On the other hand, at least cap circumventing isn't a thing. That's nice to see.

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2 hours ago, poum said:

Anyone else getting more and more worried as every calendar day passes without Phaneuf signing elsewhere. The Ducks only have 6 defensemen (per the Ducks official site) and no 7th.

Certainly a kid could swoop in during Camp. Larsson may have a case for a full time spot while Guhl/Holzer slides to 7th.

It's GMformelyHCBM that we're talking about. One half of the defense could well be Holzer, MDZ, and Phanuef.

For some reason our new Finnish player (Jakanpaa?) isn't listed. And I hope Mahura can be a regular in the line-up.
If Phaneuf is one year/1 mil deal I wouldn't mind it too much. He brings toughness. Something we lack. Unfortunately that's all he brings.

I don't think it'll happen.

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13 hours ago, poum said:

Anyone else getting more and more worried as every calendar day passes without Phaneuf signing elsewhere. The Ducks only have 6 defensemen (per the Ducks official site) and no 7th.

Certainly a kid could swoop in during Camp. Larsson may have a case for a full time spot while Guhl/Holzer slides to 7th.

It's GMformelyHCBM that we're talking about. One half of the defense could well be Holzer, MDZ, and Phanuef.

Are you suggesting our Ducks take a chance in Signing our Captain's longtime Rival and enemy?.

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10 hours ago, MooseDuck said:

Are you suggesting our Ducks take a chance in Signing our Captain's longtime Rival and enemy?.

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No. Nooooo... The word horrified comes to mind but doesn't accurately reflect the true extent of the horror.

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11 hours ago, poum said:

No. Nooooo... The word horrified comes to mind but doesn't accurately reflect the true extent of the horror.

Ducks should sign maybe look at trading some players nothing wrong in helping young Ducks groom and ready for their role. Also I am eager to see How Zucker does for this upcoming season.

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13 hours ago, Jasoaks said:

Not gonna lie...LOVING that Sabres 50th anniversary logo

It's great but I just wish they'd go back to wearing that bright royal blue from the 70s instead of the drab navy blue almost half the league already wears today. Still, it could be a lot worse. Case in point:

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On 8/18/2019 at 2:52 PM, Jasoaks said:

Not gonna lie...LOVING that Sabres 50th anniversary logo

It's pretty Cool...makes you wonder what Ducks 50th Logo will be like in Gold.

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18 hours ago, MooseDuck said:

It's pretty Cool...makes you wonder what Ducks 50th Logo will be like in Gold.

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it could look awesome!! only another 24 years to go!

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9 hours ago, Jasoaks said:

it could look awesome!! only another 24 years to go!

Imagine the Ducks using Original Logo in Gold that would be AWESOME.

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this random third hand story, so I'm leaving it here.

A friend of mine works as a sound engineer, anything from from world tours with notable names to local punk rock bands. The local punk rock band is why I'm posting. A bass player (Ducks fan) from a local So Cal band was a driver for clients. One night he ended up having a few drinks with the Dallas Stars after taking them to their hotel and called out Steve Ott for a fight with the Ducks, what I'm assuming was the Ott-Moen debacle.

Long story short, the Stars players didn't defend Ott and tipped their driver in excess.

 

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On 8/24/2019 at 5:40 AM, poum said:

Didn't want to start a new thread for this random third hand story, so I'm leaving it here.

A friend of mine works as a sound engineer, anything from from world tours with notable names to local punk rock bands. The local punk rock band is why I'm posting. A bass player (Ducks fan) from a local So Cal band was a driver for clients. One night he ended up having a few drinks with the Dallas Stars after taking them to their hotel and called out Steve Ott for a fight with the Ducks, what I'm assuming was the Ott-Moen debacle.

Long story short, the Stars players didn't defend Ott and tipped their driver in excess.

 

Sounds to me Ott was not well liked by his teammates back then.

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