Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, gorbachav5 said: No, I don't believe so. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that all eight teams that lose in the play-in round have an equal shot of getting the top spot in the draft. I can confirm now that this is correct. Every team that gets eliminated in the play-in round will have an equal shot at the number one pick. https://www.nhl.com/news/2020-nhl-draft-lottery-first-phase-results/c-317275622 correct......... so basically, in the first lottery draw... a team that loses in the qualifier round had a 24.5% chance of getting the #1 pick...for comparison...we had a 8.5% chance...Detroit had a 18.5% chance....Ottawa technically had a 25% chance due to having 2 picks...but essentially a loser from the qualifier round had a better chance to get the #1 pick than any of the lottery teams... And now that they DID get it...it's a 12.5% chance for a team to get it. So, now, EACH TEAM THAT HAD THE CHANCE FOR A CUP RUN but LOST...has a BETTER percentage to get the #1 pick than 5 of the 7 teams from the first lottery... If the Pens lose tomorrow...they will -- the 7th best team in the league -- have a significantly higher percentage chance to get the #1 pick than the Ducks -- 5th worse team in the league... Edited August 6, 2020 by Jasoaks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetrSykora 12,755 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 It's still absolutely bogus that losing playoff teams were even allowed to be represented in a draft lottery with that placeholder spot, let alone given a shot to end up with the first selection. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeaitsme 744 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 Lol Leafs blowing that lead 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeaitsme 744 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, PetrSykora said: It's still absolutely bogus that losing playoff teams were even allowed to be represented in a draft lottery with that placeholder spot, let alone given a shot to end up with the first selection. Totally agree. Flawed schematic in every way. Whatever though, at least it won’t be like this every year . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, PetrSykora said: It's still absolutely bogus that losing playoff teams were even allowed to be represented in a draft lottery with that placeholder spot, let alone given a shot to end up with the first selection. agreeeeeed. I just don't get why they had to have the lottery BEFORE the qualifying round?! Couldn't they just have it Monday? Just have it Monday....ugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, yeaitsme said: Lol Leafs blowing that lead 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeaitsme 744 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 Nashville losing is always a good thing imo, but why on earth wouldn’t they start Rinne over Saros? Who gives a Crap about the regular season, start the proven goalie. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetrSykora 12,755 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, yeaitsme said: Nashville losing is always a good thing imo, but why on earth wouldn’t they start Rinne over Saros? Who gives a Crap about the regular season, start the proven goalie. He's been straight up trash in the playoffs against every team that isn't located in Anaheim for a while now 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 sigh....god damnit yotes..... also, come on! they're supposed to be in "arizona" stop playing that damn country music when Nashville scores!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jasoaks said: sigh....god damnit yotes..... also, come on! they're supposed to be in "arizona" stop playing that damn country music when Nashville scores!! same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 Howlyeah!!! go yotes!!!!!!!! (/goddamnit now Nashville could get the #1 pick....) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetrSykora 12,755 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 That Seth Jones trade just keeps looking worse year after year and I love it 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, PetrSykora said: That Seth Jones trade just keeps looking worse year after year and I love it Oh yes....and the Weber trade....not that they have PK anyone more though...and lets through in the lack of getting Suter signed? lol I dunno, that team was stacked on D and has just....collapsed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 wooooooow....habs....woooooooooow I'm mean, i'm super habby for them! ...but like...ugh...now PITTSBURGH could get the #1 pick.... I'm sure the Habs fan are upset they just played themselves out of the #1 french-canadian kid lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, gorbachav5 said: For those of us hate-watching some of these series, the draft lottery is really screwing things up. I'm happy to see Nashville and, to a much lesser extent, Pittsburgh get bounced from the playoffs. But I'm dreading either of those teams getting the top pick in the draft. Mostly Nashville. Screw those guys. Really, the only team I'm rooting for to win that lottery is Florida. Maybe Columbus, if they blow the series to Toronto. same same same.... I was actually hoping for Montreal for the pick ultimately....but yeah, Florida I guess is the next best right now....I mean, Hawks vs. Oilers....who is more annoying to have the #1 pick!?! it's painful lol I GUESS edmonton...since Chicago technically would have still HAD a chance for the pick in the normal lottery....but with much worse odds than 12.5%....ugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 grrreeeaaaat....now edmonton could get ANOTHER #1 pick.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, gorbachav5 said: Here comes an Edmonton lottery win. I posted this in the rumors section, but, when Edmonton inevitably wins the lottery, what do you think: Gibson + Boston's 1st for the 1st overall i dunno....we need Gibson more than Lafreniere if you ask me...I don't know how our goalie depth is, but goaltending is something you want to have shored up. I think that would make us weaker for a lot longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 WOW, Leafs eek out an OT entry at the last second? wish i could see this game... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 i think i found a radio station, that'll be fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetrSykora 12,755 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 Blue Jackets just went full game 5 Oilers. Unreal especially since Toronto basically had a 3 stooges moment in front of the empty net. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 apparently Toronto can't score with less than 5 attackers on the ice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 ugh, honestly...Toronto getting the #1 pick could have benefited us a little bit...they may have been more likely to move a marner or nylander for a defenseman..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jasoaks said: ugh, honestly...Toronto getting the #1 pick could have benefited us a little bit...they may have been more likely to move a marner or nylander for a defenseman..... they can still steal defeat from the jaws of success... still a game Sunday I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fisix said: they can still steal defeat from the jaws of success... still a game Sunday I think. Yeah, that's the game 5...winner moves on. Kinda crazy that 5 of the 6 games today eliminated teams. ...if CBJ wins on Sunday it would basically have meant that the NHL COULD have just done a best of 3 like they originally proposed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetrSykora 12,755 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, gorbachav5 said: Here comes an Edmonton lottery win. I posted this in the rumors section, but, when Edmonton inevitably wins the lottery, what do you think: Gibson + Boston's 1st for the 1st overall The more I think about it, the more I like it. The thought of Gibson in an Oilers sweater is a little gross. Still, Mike Smith (surprisingly?) wasn't the problem in Edmonton so I'm not too worried on that end. I'd want to take Byfield with the #1 pick over Lafreniere though. The guy has Nextlaf written all over him even if the immediate payoff wouldn't be the same. Not the biggest deal since this team would be borderline unwatchable without Gibson for the next couple of seasons the same way they would've been since 2017-18. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) wait wait wait...does Minnesota own Pittsburgh first round pick?????? woah, wait...and did New Jersey own BOTH Arizona's AND Vancouvers??? And Ottawa owned the Islanders...and Carolina owns Torontos...and ironically the rangers owned Carolina's haha so if the rangers won, theyd still be in the running for the top pick... wow...man, sucks for NJ and Ottawa lol but happy to see Pttsburgh can't get it... oh...unless it's top-3 protected or something...... Edited August 9, 2020 by Jasoaks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoaks 2,404 Report post Posted August 10, 2020 At this point...I'd only be happy with Florida winning the draft lottery.... It's the only thing that can right this wrong that is the 2020 nhl draft... Reason being in the original lottery, "Qualifying Team E" won the #1 pick...so, it doesn't matter how CBJ/TOR do, Florida sits in that "Qualifying Team E" slot now. That would at least essentially mean the 2nd lottery didn't REALLY have to happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisix 1,789 Report post Posted August 10, 2020 man, i haven't watched Toronto much before, just drips and drabs.... they're a team with 1000 great ideas every play, but each player has ideas that are somehow completely orthogonal to all the ideas of his linemates, 99% of the time. it's 50% keystone cops, self-inflicted. another 30% lack of rhythm, and 15% unpracticed team-execution. and the other 5% is when they finally get it together and score. it's devastating when you think about how much money they're spending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetrSykora 12,755 Report post Posted August 10, 2020 Leafs giving me serious game 7 Ducks vibes right now. Starring John Tavares as Ryan Kesler with the 500 A+ chances he's had so far but couldn't get past a Finnish goalie playing over his head/the post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
