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damn....Murray from Pens to Sens....for Gruden and 2020 2nd rounder??? Wow....that sounds like a pretty solid deal for the Sens.....

And damn!! the Preds just sent Bonino to Minnesota and their 37th pick for....Kunin? and some late picks? huh

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23 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:

I get it. I just think that the mindset should be taking the best player available and not prioritizing a position,

Murray's got issues, so I'm not going to defend the guy completely.  But in this case, it sounds like the team had determined that Sanderson and Drysdale were both top 6 talents in this draft, maybe even top 5.  I would argue that Sanderson is not that, but I don't think that's unreasonable for Drysdale, and as we saw, at least one other team felt the same way about Sanderson.  So given that evaluation, unless Lafreniere or Byfield or Stutzle fell to them (zero percent), they were going to take a defenseman.  I don't think that's indicative of a poor drafting philosophy so much as it's indicative of the team's evaluation of the top two defensemen in this particular draft.

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What do people think of Colangelo?  I saw him pretty high on some "Best Player Remaining" boards after last night.  You had to assume Murray was itching to draft some size.

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9 minutes ago, gorbachav5 said:

Murray's got issues, so I'm not going to defend the guy completely.  But in this case, it sounds like the team had determined that Sanderson and Drysdale were both top 6 talents in this draft, maybe even top 5.  I would argue that Sanderson is not that, but I don't think that's unreasonable for Drysdale, and as we saw, at least one other team felt the same way about Sanderson.  So given that evaluation, unless Lafreniere or Byfield or Stutzle fell to them (zero percent), they were going to take a defenseman.  I don't think that's indicative of a poor drafting philosophy so much as it's indicative of the team's evaluation of the top two defensemen in this particular draft.

Ducks management also has a much better history of evaluating defensive talent than forward talent, so they may have just felt more confident in picking a D-man here. It's a solid pick too. There has to be a little concern about Drysdale's size, but if he can become even 80% of what Makar or Hughes have turned into already then the fan base should be happy (even when Holtz eventually turns into a superstar :ph34r:).

This team is still lacking top-end offensive talent though. At some point I'd like to see GMBM swing for the fences on a trade using picks, prospects and redundant pieces, even if he has to overpay a little to get something good. I'm slightly disappointed the Ducks will be using all of their picks again this time around rather than finding a good trade.

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22 minutes ago, gorbachav5 said:

Murray's got issues, so I'm not going to defend the guy completely.  But in this case, it sounds like the team had determined that Sanderson and Drysdale were both top 6 talents in this draft, maybe even top 5.  I would argue that Sanderson is not that, but I don't think that's unreasonable for Drysdale, and as we saw, at least one other team felt the same way about Sanderson.  So given that evaluation, unless Lafreniere or Byfield or Stutzle fell to them (zero percent), they were going to take a defenseman.  I don't think that's indicative of a poor drafting philosophy so much as it's indicative of the team's evaluation of the top two defensemen in this particular draft.

If wish he would have said that instead of we decided on a defensemen. Then I’d have no argument with that. The Drysdale pick isn’t bad at all and I’m glad Ottawa took Sanderson and made his decision easier.

18 minutes ago, gorbachav5 said:

Gunler finally went.  I know a lot of you wanted him.

i would have love to have taken him. Colangelo is billed as a solid two way power forward which Murray definitely likes and adds to likes of Jones and Comtois.

8 minutes ago, DT2008 said:

The lack of other roster movement by Murray is troubling.  He has a bad habit of falling in love with his prospects.

top-5 pick in 2021 bound!

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2 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:

If wish he would have said that instead of we decided on a defensemen. Then I’d have no argument with that. The Drysdale pick isn’t bad at all and I’m glad Ottawa took Sanderson and made his decision easier.

i would have love to have taken him. Colangelo is billed as a solid two way power forward which Murray definitely likes and adds to likes of Jones and Comtois.

top-5 pick one 2021 bound!

Too soon. 

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I think Perrault was a swing for the fences, albeit higher risk and a lower upside than Holtz.  But he was Holtz-lite.  

I don't think this was the right year to trade draft picks.  The Ducks need all the cheap future talent they can get.  If anything, I'm upset Murray didn't try to get MORE picks.

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2 minutes ago, DT2008 said:

Agree.  I believe the team will be competitive this year at least until Jan. 1, 2021.

LOL.

Well, the last time an NHL season started in January the Ducks were projected to finish at the bottom of the heap but ended up with the 3rd best record in the league, so I guess you never know with a shortened season. Is Boudreau still available?

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9 minutes ago, gorbachav5 said:

I think Perrault was a swing for the fences, albeit higher risk and a lower upside than Holtz.  But he was Holtz-lite.  

I don't think this was the right year to trade draft picks.  The Ducks need all the cheap future talent they can get.  If anything, I'm upset Murray didn't try to get MORE picks.

If you are talking about picks in the first two rounds, sure.   But the likelihood of players playing significant NHL games as a third rounder or lower is pretty remote.  You are almost as lucky signing free agents than getting a contributor in the later rounds.

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1 minute ago, DT2008 said:

If you are talking about picks in the first two rounds, sure.   But the likelihood of players playing significant NHL games as a third rounder or lower is pretty remote.  You are almost as lucky signing free agents than getting a contributor in the later rounds.

I'm talking about any picks.  Sure, third rounders and below are longshots.  But they're cheap, low-risk longshots, unlike free agents.  The Ducks shouldn't be dumb and give talent away for lottery tickets, but if there was a deal out there to pick up more picks, I'd at least kick the tires.

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1 hour ago, Jasoaks said:

damn....Murray from Pens to Sens....for Gruden and 2020 2nd rounder??? Wow....that sounds like a pretty solid deal for the Sens.....

And damn!! the Preds just sent Bonino to Minnesota and their 37th pick for....Kunin? and some late picks? huh

Bones isn't as young as he used to be.

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1 hour ago, Jasoaks said:

damn....Murray from Pens to Sens....for Gruden and 2020 2nd rounder??? Wow....that sounds like a pretty solid deal for the Sens.....

And damn!! the Preds just sent Bonino to Minnesota and their 37th pick for....Kunin? and some late picks? huh

Ots won this week....

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42 minutes ago, DT2008 said:

The lack of other roster movement by Murray is troubling.  He has a bad habit of falling in love with his prospects.

With having two first rounders, I don't think we really needed to this year  And with several two-way guys expected to stay up top this year, we need the lower level folks to fill out the lower level teams.  I'm not as concerned about it.

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8 minutes ago, gotchabari said:

With having two first rounders, I don't think we really needed to this year  And with several two-way guys expected to stay up top this year, we need the lower level folks to fill out the lower level teams.  I'm not as concerned about it.

I have far less confidence in any of our younger players becoming top two line players.  

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21 minutes ago, DT2008 said:

I have far less confidence in any of our younger players becoming top two line players.  

Didn't say they were top two lines (although some may be this year).  I meant they split the year last year, and will now be 100% up in Anaheim.  So SD now needs to backfill those holes.

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Murray got his bigger forward, so he gets his bigger d-man now: Ian Moore.  Like any guys still left, I have no idea about this kid.  But welcome to the Ducks!

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5 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:

Guschin, Foudy, Zybeck, Knazko, Poirier all available and you pick Moore

And as of this post, they're all STILL available.  Maybe the NHL scouts are smarter than we are?

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